1 00:00:17,100 --> 00:00:14,180 [Music] 2 00:00:21,359 --> 00:00:17,110 this smoke radio for the masses 3 00:00:22,979 --> 00:00:21,369 headliner between July 8 1947 the Army 4 00:00:25,290 --> 00:00:22,989 Air Force crew personnel are applying 5 00:00:28,769 --> 00:00:25,300 this type of sound and is now in the 6 00:00:32,819 --> 00:00:28,779 possession of the eye we changed the 7 00:00:36,060 --> 00:00:32,829 game cage I occasionally think how 8 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:36,070 quickly our differences worldwide would 9 00:00:45,750 --> 00:00:39,850 vanish if we were facing an alien threat 10 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:47,200 [Applause] 11 00:00:52,900 --> 00:00:50,090 fade to black with your host Jimmy 12 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:52,910 Church on the game changer radio network 13 00:01:04,580 --> 00:01:01,130 I need your help to get to the year 14 00:01:10,510 --> 00:01:08,220 [Music] 15 00:01:12,580 --> 00:01:10,520 you listen to 16 00:01:15,609 --> 00:01:12,590 Jimmy judge only game change in that 17 00:01:21,340 --> 00:01:18,349 well well well good evening everybody 18 00:01:33,669 --> 00:01:21,350 how you doing fade to black 19 00:01:40,249 --> 00:01:33,679 the spoke radio for the masses yeah man 20 00:01:43,459 --> 00:01:40,259 Tuesday October 10th just 283 days into 21 00:01:44,749 --> 00:01:43,469 the new year 82 days left we are live 22 00:01:47,749 --> 00:01:44,759 from a bunker somewhere in downtown 23 00:01:49,429 --> 00:01:47,759 Burbank California and I would like to 24 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:49,439 welcome everybody listening all around 25 00:01:52,910 --> 00:01:51,090 the world all across the United States 26 00:01:54,620 --> 00:01:52,920 Heather attend there to and fro back and 27 00:01:56,419 --> 00:01:54,630 forth up and down east and west north 28 00:02:00,830 --> 00:01:56,429 and south far and near 29 00:02:03,380 --> 00:02:00,840 this is fade to black for kjc are the 30 00:02:05,959 --> 00:02:03,390 game changer network in kg ra the 31 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:05,969 planets are MailChimp each what is 32 00:02:09,270 --> 00:02:08,610 cracking everybody how you doing cool 33 00:02:12,490 --> 00:02:09,280 night tonight 34 00:02:15,420 --> 00:02:12,500 [Music] 35 00:02:18,910 --> 00:02:15,430 that's right our guest tonight Anthony F 36 00:02:21,780 --> 00:02:18,920 Sanchez we're going to talk about 37 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:21,790 interdimensional and parallel world 38 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:25,730 contact with et doesn't get any better 39 00:02:31,420 --> 00:02:29,330 than that does it man love our 40 00:02:32,890 --> 00:02:31,430 conversations with Anthony I want to 41 00:02:35,020 --> 00:02:32,900 remind everybody that tomorrow night 42 00:02:38,730 --> 00:02:35,030 John de Souza is here and we're gonna 43 00:02:40,870 --> 00:02:38,740 talk about his new book clear hearers 44 00:02:43,180 --> 00:02:40,880 Thursday night is another fader night 45 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:43,190 with Jon Rappoport and his no more fake 46 00:02:52,510 --> 00:02:48,050 newsroom live all right yeah yeah yeah 47 00:02:54,640 --> 00:02:52,520 it's October 10th so therefore you're 48 00:02:56,260 --> 00:02:54,650 probably gonna be so inclined to make a 49 00:02:57,340 --> 00:02:56,270 few phone calls tonight into the show 50 00:03:01,510 --> 00:02:57,350 that's that's cool 51 00:03:04,570 --> 00:03:01,520 I get it 3 2 3 8 2 5 5 0 4 5 or 3 2 3 2 52 00:03:07,510 --> 00:03:04,580 7 5 9 6 9 5 we'll do all of that a 53 00:03:10,900 --> 00:03:07,520 little bit later I kind of kind of 54 00:03:12,850 --> 00:03:10,910 warned Anthony about what today was you 55 00:03:14,770 --> 00:03:12,860 know I can't control you know the fader 56 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:14,780 knots you know this is your show so 57 00:03:19,900 --> 00:03:16,970 there you go it's kind of what happens 58 00:03:22,180 --> 00:03:19,910 there follow us on twitter at jth radio 59 00:03:22,509 --> 00:03:22,190 simple at Jay Church radio Facebook 60 00:03:24,729 --> 00:03:22,519 YouTube 61 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:24,739 everything is fade to black Jimmy Church 62 00:03:29,140 --> 00:03:27,290 radio follow like and subscribe over on 63 00:03:32,410 --> 00:03:29,150 our website click on those funny little 64 00:03:34,420 --> 00:03:32,420 three buttons that are there and the 65 00:03:36,610 --> 00:03:34,430 sandbox is hashtag F to be on Twitter 66 00:03:38,590 --> 00:03:36,620 which is what we use we also have a 67 00:03:41,770 --> 00:03:38,600 couple of chat rooms over in Spreaker or 68 00:03:46,690 --> 00:03:41,780 of course the fabulous world famous chat 69 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:46,700 room over at TKG are a the planets all 70 00:03:50,620 --> 00:03:48,650 right email throughout the show Jimmy at 71 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:50,630 Jimmy Church radio calm also if you have 72 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:53,450 any questions or comments during the 73 00:03:57,490 --> 00:03:54,850 show tonight 74 00:04:01,330 --> 00:03:57,500 hashtag f2b 75 00:04:05,020 --> 00:04:01,340 q all right man a couple of things 76 00:04:08,289 --> 00:04:05,030 really quick the fires are still a 77 00:04:11,650 --> 00:04:08,299 raging here in Southern California down 78 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:11,660 in Anaheim yesterday we'll get to 79 00:04:15,190 --> 00:04:13,250 Northern California here in a second but 80 00:04:19,210 --> 00:04:15,200 down in Anaheim in the Anaheim Hills 81 00:04:22,060 --> 00:04:19,220 overnight there it's now somewhere in 82 00:04:25,630 --> 00:04:22,070 the neighborhood of about 24 homes and 83 00:04:26,830 --> 00:04:25,640 structures burnt there five percent 84 00:04:29,409 --> 00:04:26,840 contained 85 00:04:31,149 --> 00:04:29,419 it's out of control and you have to 86 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:31,159 understand where this fire is burning it 87 00:04:38,529 --> 00:04:34,370 is in the middle of the suburbs and it 88 00:04:41,019 --> 00:04:38,539 is a miracle that there is a more damage 89 00:04:43,659 --> 00:04:41,029 than than what has already happened but 90 00:04:47,110 --> 00:04:43,669 up in Northern California in Napa and 91 00:04:51,010 --> 00:04:47,120 what is going across there is absolutely 92 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:51,020 incredible we reached out to my little 93 00:04:54,730 --> 00:04:51,849 brother 94 00:04:58,450 --> 00:04:54,740 who lives up there also my other little 95 00:05:00,020 --> 00:04:58,460 brother both of them Mike and Danny that 96 00:05:01,499 --> 00:05:00,030 live right in the middle of it and 97 00:05:03,700 --> 00:05:01,509 [Applause] 98 00:05:06,820 --> 00:05:03,710 didn't hear anything back until today 99 00:05:09,730 --> 00:05:06,830 their phones are out they are okay I 100 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:09,740 didn't get anything else than that you 101 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:11,090 know thanks for checking in we don't 102 00:05:16,330 --> 00:05:13,250 have any phones but apparently he's got 103 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:16,340 internet because he reached out to us 104 00:05:22,779 --> 00:05:20,330 through there so my direct you know a 105 00:05:26,709 --> 00:05:22,789 family that is up there in the middle of 106 00:05:29,890 --> 00:05:26,719 it so far is okay but up there when you 107 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:29,900 have 70 80 thousand acres burning out of 108 00:05:37,300 --> 00:05:33,770 control way over 1500 structures homes 109 00:05:41,260 --> 00:05:37,310 families 20,000 evacuations more than 110 00:05:44,129 --> 00:05:41,270 that just devastation going on right now 111 00:05:47,409 --> 00:05:44,139 and the winds have been kicking up we 112 00:05:50,230 --> 00:05:47,419 woke up today here in Burbank and 113 00:05:52,510 --> 00:05:50,240 there's just you know there's what 114 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:52,520 happens here I wanted to mention this to 115 00:05:57,790 --> 00:05:54,289 everybody around the country because you 116 00:05:59,649 --> 00:05:57,800 don't experience it really in most parts 117 00:06:03,550 --> 00:05:59,659 of the country maybe Texas in Arizona 118 00:06:05,829 --> 00:06:03,560 and New Mexico at times but here in 119 00:06:07,570 --> 00:06:05,839 Southern California when we get these 120 00:06:09,490 --> 00:06:07,580 winds that come in they call them you 121 00:06:11,740 --> 00:06:09,500 know the Santa Anas and we get them 122 00:06:13,450 --> 00:06:11,750 every year and they're severe but what 123 00:06:15,100 --> 00:06:13,460 happens because we don't have any rain 124 00:06:17,559 --> 00:06:15,110 here you know we have very little rain 125 00:06:20,019 --> 00:06:17,569 so there's dirt and dust everywhere it's 126 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:20,029 just constant it just never ever ever 127 00:06:27,519 --> 00:06:23,810 ever ever stops the dust and when these 128 00:06:31,149 --> 00:06:27,529 winds kick up everything gets covered so 129 00:06:33,189 --> 00:06:31,159 our entire back patio today and 130 00:06:35,829 --> 00:06:33,199 yesterday I'm talking about you look 131 00:06:38,170 --> 00:06:35,839 down at what was white concrete in the 132 00:06:39,670 --> 00:06:38,180 back Pat and it's brown it's just thick 133 00:06:42,670 --> 00:06:39,680 covered dust every 134 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:42,680 everywhere everywhere you look it's it's 135 00:06:48,700 --> 00:06:45,289 just covering everything and that's 136 00:06:51,310 --> 00:06:48,710 what's going on these winds are severe 137 00:06:53,830 --> 00:06:51,320 and when a little spark happens with 138 00:06:55,870 --> 00:06:53,840 these hot winds and everything is dry it 139 00:06:57,730 --> 00:06:55,880 just explodes and that's that's what 140 00:06:59,320 --> 00:06:57,740 we're dealing with and and we do deal 141 00:07:01,029 --> 00:06:59,330 with it every year but it's always 142 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:01,039 different in the communities that are 143 00:07:04,629 --> 00:07:03,289 affected or different in and here we go 144 00:07:07,060 --> 00:07:04,639 so our thoughts and prayers are with 145 00:07:12,339 --> 00:07:07,070 everybody Anaheim and Northern 146 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:12,349 California Anthony was talking with me 147 00:07:17,050 --> 00:07:14,210 earlier and he could barely talk he's 148 00:07:20,230 --> 00:07:17,060 coughing he's I do the smoke you know 149 00:07:22,060 --> 00:07:20,240 it's just so hard to deal with so we'll 150 00:07:25,689 --> 00:07:22,070 talk to him about all of that here in 151 00:07:27,730 --> 00:07:25,699 just a bit all right okay where am I at 152 00:07:31,330 --> 00:07:27,740 don't forget to subscribe to our podcast 153 00:07:33,909 --> 00:07:31,340 by the way now we do have over 730 154 00:07:35,860 --> 00:07:33,919 archived shows right there custom apps 155 00:07:37,659 --> 00:07:35,870 Apple Android everything that you need 156 00:07:40,330 --> 00:07:37,669 all platforms just $2 a month 157 00:07:42,370 --> 00:07:40,340 great software great apps you can just 158 00:07:44,170 --> 00:07:42,380 access the archives and and everything 159 00:07:46,390 --> 00:07:44,180 runs smooth and it's great every 160 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say everything will ship 188 00:09:00,699 --> 00:08:58,490 out this Thursday and Friday okay so if 189 00:09:03,730 --> 00:09:00,709 you've been waiting patiently we ran out 190 00:09:08,379 --> 00:09:03,740 of Forex we ran out of 3x we ran out of 191 00:09:11,860 --> 00:09:08,389 smalls we ran out of hats so it's just 192 00:09:13,449 --> 00:09:11,870 like stopped everything and one thing 193 00:09:17,050 --> 00:09:13,459 got fixed and then there got fixed and 194 00:09:18,939 --> 00:09:17,060 here we go but was over at our vendors 195 00:09:20,230 --> 00:09:18,949 yesterday and and we're gonna take 196 00:09:22,150 --> 00:09:20,240 delivery tomorrow and we'll start 197 00:09:24,579 --> 00:09:22,160 shipping again and get done this 198 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:24,589 Thursday and Friday okay all right don't 199 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:25,970 forget to check out all of our sponsors 200 00:09:30,970 --> 00:09:28,250 life change t get the t-dot-com River 201 00:09:35,439 --> 00:09:30,980 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hear everybody calling 216 00:10:12,100 --> 00:10:10,430 in to the show dude you won't believe 217 00:10:14,530 --> 00:10:12,110 what we saw last night right before the 218 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:14,540 show tonight man me and my wife right 219 00:10:18,790 --> 00:10:16,130 before the show last night my son 220 00:10:21,129 --> 00:10:18,800 we were out you're gonna do all of those 221 00:10:23,860 --> 00:10:21,139 phone calls with me from now on I cannot 222 00:10:26,530 --> 00:10:23,870 wait and just imagine right all of the 223 00:10:29,350 --> 00:10:26,540 conference's that we do had conscious 224 00:10:31,389 --> 00:10:29,360 life or contact in the desert we're out 225 00:10:32,829 --> 00:10:31,399 there doing our thing all the fate or 226 00:10:35,499 --> 00:10:32,839 nots now we're gonna be armed and 227 00:10:38,350 --> 00:10:35,509 dangerous with night-vision sitting 228 00:10:39,910 --> 00:10:38,360 around the table at the fader house and 229 00:10:41,860 --> 00:10:39,920 everybody's gonna have night-vision 230 00:10:42,970 --> 00:10:41,870 goggles nobody's gonna be talking to 231 00:10:45,129 --> 00:10:42,980 anybody anymore 232 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:45,139 right no more conversations everybody's 233 00:10:51,340 --> 00:10:46,970 gonna just be looking up in the sky all 234 00:10:54,220 --> 00:10:51,350 the time it's gonna be great barring 235 00:10:55,990 --> 00:10:54,230 optics err Alec Hoffman phone number is 236 00:10:58,269 --> 00:10:56,000 over on the website the links are right 237 00:11:00,540 --> 00:10:58,279 there you just click over here Jimmy 238 00:11:04,750 --> 00:11:00,550 Church radio.com I'm baring optics and 239 00:11:06,550 --> 00:11:04,760 there it is Alec Hoffman extension 105 240 00:11:09,220 --> 00:11:06,560 if you need contact info 241 00:11:11,830 --> 00:11:09,230 just email me directly or email Rita 242 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:11,840 right Rita Jimmy Church radio.com you 243 00:11:15,550 --> 00:11:13,850 email us off of the website you can hit 244 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:15,560 me directly Jimmy and Jimmy Church radio 245 00:11:20,890 --> 00:11:18,290 calm and I'll send you direct contact 246 00:11:23,829 --> 00:11:20,900 info for Alec because you not have an 247 00:11:26,170 --> 00:11:23,839 inside guy over a bearing optics he's a 248 00:11:30,610 --> 00:11:26,180 fade or not alright let's get this show 249 00:11:37,030 --> 00:11:30,620 crackin happy birthday to today David 250 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:37,040 Lee Roth 62 years old and Dale Earnhardt 251 00:11:48,670 --> 00:11:43,730 jr. is 43 there you go October 10th all 252 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:48,680 right I understand history OTD 1987 it 253 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:51,890 went down Whitesnake releases their 254 00:11:58,840 --> 00:11:56,810 famous here I go again video yeah 255 00:12:01,960 --> 00:11:58,850 featuring two Jaguars parked 256 00:12:03,790 --> 00:12:01,970 side-by-side yeah that was what was in 257 00:12:07,530 --> 00:12:03,800 the video I don't remember much else I 258 00:12:11,140 --> 00:12:07,540 do recall the cars though in that video 259 00:12:12,820 --> 00:12:11,150 yeah probably you know out of all of the 260 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:12,830 80s right and you think about all those 261 00:12:16,750 --> 00:12:15,650 great 80s videos because there was a 262 00:12:20,260 --> 00:12:16,760 video world right 263 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:20,270 that's video comes to mind first what a 264 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:24,410 statement for the 80s fader fact alright 265 00:12:33,030 --> 00:12:28,010 are you ready for this Iran's women's 266 00:12:36,100 --> 00:12:33,040 national soccer team fielded eight men 267 00:12:41,110 --> 00:12:36,110 awaiting sex change operations back in 268 00:12:44,350 --> 00:12:41,120 2015 and that is a fader fact do I need 269 00:12:47,590 --> 00:12:44,360 to repeat that the Iranian women's 270 00:12:50,350 --> 00:12:47,600 national soccer team fielded eight men 271 00:12:53,530 --> 00:12:50,360 on the field were playing soccer on the 272 00:12:56,410 --> 00:12:53,540 women's national soccer team because 273 00:12:58,449 --> 00:12:56,420 they were awaiting sex change operations 274 00:13:01,060 --> 00:12:58,459 they did that back in 2015 275 00:13:01,449 --> 00:13:01,070 never feel right tonight very special 276 00:13:04,420 --> 00:13:01,459 guest 277 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:04,430 Anthony F Sanchez is here we're gonna 278 00:13:08,430 --> 00:13:06,410 talk about what everybody has been 279 00:13:10,690 --> 00:13:08,440 talking about lately which is 280 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:10,700 inter-dimensional and parallel world 281 00:13:14,650 --> 00:13:13,610 contact with ET tomorrow night John de 282 00:13:17,560 --> 00:13:14,660 Souza is here we're gonna talk about 283 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:17,570 this new book clear here's Thursday 284 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:19,730 night is another fader night with John 285 00:13:24,340 --> 00:13:21,290 purport and his no more fake newsroom 286 00:13:26,949 --> 00:13:24,350 live and I know you guys want to call 287 00:13:31,210 --> 00:13:26,959 okay three two three two seven five nine 288 00:13:33,819 --> 00:13:31,220 six nine five Cortana has just tweeted 289 00:13:35,939 --> 00:13:33,829 up you know what I'm gonna do 290 00:13:39,699 --> 00:13:35,949 and the Twitter runs too fast sometimes 291 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:39,709 okay I just retweeted that I think I did 292 00:13:43,870 --> 00:13:40,010 it 293 00:13:47,350 --> 00:13:43,880 right okay I just retweeted you Cortana 294 00:13:49,180 --> 00:13:47,360 tickets to the awareness UFO at at 295 00:13:52,420 --> 00:13:49,190 awareness UFOs to the Twitter handle 296 00:13:55,389 --> 00:13:52,430 heart frequency conference are available 297 00:13:59,439 --> 00:13:55,399 at the door 50% off with college student 298 00:14:02,230 --> 00:13:59,449 ID the first 10 fader not that show up 299 00:14:06,310 --> 00:14:02,240 in the morning on Friday get full 300 00:14:08,650 --> 00:14:06,320 weekend passes for free just because you 301 00:14:11,230 --> 00:14:08,660 are faint or not okay thank you for 302 00:14:12,550 --> 00:14:11,240 posting that up Cortana I think I'm the 303 00:14:14,439 --> 00:14:12,560 Susan's gonna be there right 304 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:14,449 we're gonna have to Sue's on the show 305 00:14:21,460 --> 00:14:19,730 tomorrow night very very cool okay where 306 00:14:24,370 --> 00:14:21,470 am i I know you guys want to call in 307 00:14:26,769 --> 00:14:24,380 we'll do that a little bit later I get 308 00:14:28,769 --> 00:14:26,779 that I really do it's all good it's all 309 00:14:30,579 --> 00:14:28,779 good weld will open up the phone lines 310 00:14:33,639 --> 00:14:30,589 in just a bit 311 00:14:37,990 --> 00:14:33,649 okay that's what I wanted to talk about 312 00:14:44,460 --> 00:14:38,000 and as I hid my River moon coffee mmm 313 00:14:49,930 --> 00:14:44,470 I want to throw this idea out there with 314 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:49,940 all those knowledgeable astrophysicists 315 00:14:58,660 --> 00:14:56,050 physicists astronomers right scientist 316 00:15:02,610 --> 00:14:58,670 that are looking to the stars and and 317 00:15:06,579 --> 00:15:02,620 put together different theories 318 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:06,589 hypothesis Big Bang Theory the start of 319 00:15:18,220 --> 00:15:13,850 it all and you have to wrap yourself 320 00:15:22,329 --> 00:15:18,230 around the idea of if what they are 321 00:15:24,759 --> 00:15:22,339 proposing is is correct that everything 322 00:15:26,829 --> 00:15:24,769 the the earth are the the universe is 323 00:15:29,170 --> 00:15:26,839 always expanding and contracting they 324 00:15:31,269 --> 00:15:29,180 have actually suggested that it's going 325 00:15:32,500 --> 00:15:31,279 to expand out and it's gonna go to where 326 00:15:33,070 --> 00:15:32,510 it's gonna go and then it's going to 327 00:15:36,180 --> 00:15:33,080 come back 328 00:15:40,030 --> 00:15:36,190 again crush back in on onto itself and 329 00:15:40,750 --> 00:15:40,040 go back down to where everything in the 330 00:15:44,140 --> 00:15:40,760 universe 331 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:44,150 compacts into a little tiny bit of 332 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:46,730 nothing that you can't see and to the 333 00:15:50,290 --> 00:15:48,410 point where it can't compress anymore 334 00:15:52,060 --> 00:15:50,300 and that it's gonna blow up and then 335 00:15:54,550 --> 00:15:52,070 start the process all over again another 336 00:15:59,910 --> 00:15:54,560 big bang aah not buying it 337 00:16:02,680 --> 00:15:59,920 but it's it's fun to think about now I 338 00:16:05,260 --> 00:16:02,690 although I'm not buying into that let me 339 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:05,270 take things a step further for you 340 00:16:15,100 --> 00:16:12,290 digest this they say that the universe 341 00:16:17,260 --> 00:16:15,110 is expanding right I mean it's at a 342 00:16:21,750 --> 00:16:17,270 certain rate they can measure the 343 00:16:26,110 --> 00:16:21,760 directions of galaxies and stars and and 344 00:16:28,660 --> 00:16:26,120 the speed and and how fast and all right 345 00:16:30,670 --> 00:16:28,670 I kind of buy into that and then when 346 00:16:35,860 --> 00:16:30,680 Hubble started to release their images 347 00:16:38,020 --> 00:16:35,870 of what we thought were stars so many 348 00:16:40,870 --> 00:16:38,030 decades ago we thought they were stars 349 00:16:42,940 --> 00:16:40,880 it seems like yesterday and they started 350 00:16:44,470 --> 00:16:42,950 blowing up these Hubble images to find 351 00:16:47,130 --> 00:16:44,480 out that these stars that we thought 352 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:47,140 were stars weren't stars but in fact 353 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:51,050 galaxies and this is what it gets 354 00:16:56,100 --> 00:16:51,770 interesting 355 00:17:01,180 --> 00:16:56,110 with science science pretty much 356 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:01,190 hardcore science is wrong it's wrong 357 00:17:08,050 --> 00:17:04,970 it's right today because we don't have 358 00:17:10,810 --> 00:17:08,060 anything else to base things on so we do 359 00:17:14,170 --> 00:17:10,820 the best that we can but in five years 360 00:17:18,030 --> 00:17:14,180 in ten years something is going to prove 361 00:17:20,829 --> 00:17:18,040 what we know today as wrong wrong 362 00:17:24,010 --> 00:17:20,839 Sciences is always self-correcting 363 00:17:26,079 --> 00:17:24,020 itself right and moving along we have a 364 00:17:28,449 --> 00:17:26,089 zillion examples of it throughout 365 00:17:31,270 --> 00:17:28,459 history we thought one thing science 366 00:17:33,310 --> 00:17:31,280 comes along and and corrects it and then 367 00:17:36,070 --> 00:17:33,320 so the the previous theory previous 368 00:17:38,710 --> 00:17:36,080 thought previous fact is now wrong and 369 00:17:41,590 --> 00:17:38,720 is now different different set of facts 370 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:41,600 like I said what we thought were stars 371 00:17:46,270 --> 00:17:44,090 out there are not it stars they're 372 00:17:50,470 --> 00:17:46,280 galaxies 373 00:17:55,750 --> 00:17:50,480 how far have we been able to see into 374 00:17:59,590 --> 00:17:55,760 this massive universe not very far not 375 00:18:04,660 --> 00:17:59,600 very far at all the center of the Big 376 00:18:07,330 --> 00:18:04,670 Bang the center of it what's going on on 377 00:18:09,580 --> 00:18:07,340 the other side we don't know can't see 378 00:18:12,060 --> 00:18:09,590 it right it's too massive what's on the 379 00:18:15,850 --> 00:18:12,070 other side what's on the other edge of 380 00:18:18,340 --> 00:18:15,860 everything don't know do you think it's 381 00:18:20,110 --> 00:18:18,350 what's to our right or left or up or 382 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:20,120 down and what we can see here don't we 383 00:18:25,660 --> 00:18:22,570 don't have a clue all we can do is guess 384 00:18:29,980 --> 00:18:25,670 that's it science will tell us in the 385 00:18:34,210 --> 00:18:29,990 future what is actually real but today 386 00:18:39,780 --> 00:18:34,220 it is guesswork now let me give you an 387 00:18:43,990 --> 00:18:39,790 example okay a fishtank 388 00:18:47,410 --> 00:18:44,000 so you have a fish you have a fish in a 389 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:47,420 fish tank and you can have the biggest 390 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:49,730 fish tank in the world I'm not going oh 391 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:51,770 [\h__\h] yet let's just go with fish tank 392 00:19:00,730 --> 00:18:57,290 right that's us and a fish only knows 393 00:19:02,350 --> 00:19:00,740 what's around him no matter how far wait 394 00:19:04,690 --> 00:19:02,360 you know what I mean that's it that's as 395 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:04,700 far as they but what the fish does not 396 00:19:13,330 --> 00:19:08,090 know is what's on the other side of the 397 00:19:17,980 --> 00:19:13,340 glass doesn't have a concept what's 398 00:19:22,180 --> 00:19:17,990 above the top of the water right where 399 00:19:26,650 --> 00:19:22,190 there is air has no idea it's a totally 400 00:19:30,490 --> 00:19:26,660 different world and in our universe we 401 00:19:32,410 --> 00:19:30,500 can only see to the farthest that we can 402 00:19:35,170 --> 00:19:32,420 see what is beyond that that's the 403 00:19:36,910 --> 00:19:35,180 horizon we can't see past that we don't 404 00:19:40,060 --> 00:19:36,920 know we don't have a clue 405 00:19:43,900 --> 00:19:40,070 and neither does any astrophysicist no 406 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:43,910 no physical but no Brainiac out there he 407 00:19:52,270 --> 00:19:48,410 can only guess that's it he can only 408 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:52,280 guess we need to always recognize that 409 00:19:58,540 --> 00:19:55,490 when we are listening to theories about 410 00:19:59,020 --> 00:19:58,550 our universe about the origins where 411 00:20:01,420 --> 00:19:59,030 it's going 412 00:20:06,310 --> 00:20:01,430 how long it's gonna last how old it is 413 00:20:09,340 --> 00:20:06,320 all of this is guesswork some of it is 414 00:20:13,710 --> 00:20:09,350 pretty good some of the numbers are 415 00:20:17,500 --> 00:20:13,720 convincing I can tell you this anybody 416 00:20:19,420 --> 00:20:17,510 anybody at MIT anybody at Caltech 417 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:19,430 anybody that wants to make numbers work 418 00:20:22,540 --> 00:20:21,050 on a chalkboard can make the numbers 419 00:20:26,830 --> 00:20:22,550 work they can plug in the numbers and 420 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:26,840 make things work so the age of the 421 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:29,650 universe how its expanding what you 422 00:20:36,850 --> 00:20:33,530 everything is different it just depends 423 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:36,860 on who you talk to no scientists none of 424 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:39,170 them agree with each other if you think 425 00:20:43,690 --> 00:20:40,610 they're all on the same page you are 426 00:20:46,030 --> 00:20:43,700 wrong so when you go and listen and 427 00:20:48,610 --> 00:20:46,040 you're trying to figure out what is 428 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:48,620 going on with the University origin of 429 00:20:54,190 --> 00:20:50,450 things who created it how it was created 430 00:20:58,240 --> 00:20:54,200 it all of this pick your poison 431 00:21:00,250 --> 00:20:58,250 pick your guy and go with that because 432 00:21:02,050 --> 00:21:00,260 it's gonna be different with the next 433 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:02,060 guy and the next guy and the next guy 434 00:21:08,350 --> 00:21:05,090 none of them agree and that's a good 435 00:21:12,010 --> 00:21:08,360 thing you don't have to agree which also 436 00:21:14,380 --> 00:21:12,020 brings me back to Anthony F Sanchez and 437 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:14,390 tonight what we are going to be talking 438 00:21:24,190 --> 00:21:18,890 about well we are dealing with the these 439 00:21:26,590 --> 00:21:24,200 words interdimensional we are going into 440 00:21:29,980 --> 00:21:26,600 a zone that for some is very 441 00:21:33,220 --> 00:21:29,990 controversial but it's also different 442 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:33,230 from the way that we looked at the UFO 443 00:21:40,090 --> 00:21:36,530 hypothesis just thirty years ago 40 444 00:21:42,060 --> 00:21:40,100 years ago it's just in the it's just a 445 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:42,070 couple of weeks if you think about it 446 00:21:50,670 --> 00:21:46,250 parallel worlds science fiction funny 447 00:21:54,820 --> 00:21:50,680 stuff fringe the TV series all right 448 00:21:57,370 --> 00:21:54,830 today this is seriously discussed and 449 00:22:01,750 --> 00:21:57,380 thought about and figured out in 450 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:01,760 scientific circles it is this wasn't 451 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:04,010 something that was even considered or 452 00:22:09,010 --> 00:22:06,170 contemplated in any fashion in 453 00:22:12,100 --> 00:22:09,020 scientific circles 20 years ago 30 years 454 00:22:12,690 --> 00:22:12,110 ago today it's reality and it has 455 00:22:15,210 --> 00:22:12,700 changed 456 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:15,220 the way that we are looking at the UFO 457 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:17,650 situation somebody posted today in 458 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:20,050 Twitter what is the UFO question what is 459 00:22:26,010 --> 00:22:23,890 the UFO question if we had the answer to 460 00:22:27,900 --> 00:22:26,020 that there wouldn't be a UFO question 461 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:27,910 the UFO questioning is all-encompassing 462 00:22:33,090 --> 00:22:29,890 it's everything we don't have the 463 00:22:37,940 --> 00:22:33,100 answers we know something is going on 464 00:22:41,970 --> 00:22:37,950 now when I see the things that I see and 465 00:22:45,030 --> 00:22:41,980 and I know that it's something real I 466 00:22:47,250 --> 00:22:45,040 just don't know what it is so I need to 467 00:22:49,530 --> 00:22:47,260 figure out is it from a parallel world 468 00:22:51,330 --> 00:22:49,540 is it from another universe isn't 469 00:22:54,420 --> 00:22:51,340 somehow getting here in some other 470 00:22:58,110 --> 00:22:54,430 fashion is there life on these ships are 471 00:23:01,980 --> 00:22:58,120 there just some kind of drone some kind 472 00:23:04,500 --> 00:23:01,990 of probe what is going on here is it 473 00:23:08,190 --> 00:23:04,510 something that is tangible I have seen a 474 00:23:11,460 --> 00:23:08,200 couple of craft that seemed to me to be 475 00:23:13,740 --> 00:23:11,470 metallic and and real going back to the 476 00:23:15,540 --> 00:23:13,750 UFO hypothesis a nuts-and-bolts craft 477 00:23:17,970 --> 00:23:15,550 that is traveling here from another 478 00:23:21,690 --> 00:23:17,980 planet another universe another solar 479 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:21,700 system something right another star 480 00:23:27,750 --> 00:23:23,770 system is it that or is it something 481 00:23:30,090 --> 00:23:27,760 else altogether well today we are 482 00:23:32,700 --> 00:23:30,100 starting to starting to change some of 483 00:23:37,500 --> 00:23:32,710 the thoughts that we had in the 1950s 484 00:23:39,990 --> 00:23:37,510 1960s 1970s it all goes back to 485 00:23:44,450 --> 00:23:40,000 everything that I just mentioned with 486 00:23:46,770 --> 00:23:44,460 the the universe multiverses are there 487 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:46,780 parallel worlds the creation of 488 00:23:51,750 --> 00:23:48,610 everything who is it that you are going 489 00:23:57,420 --> 00:23:51,760 to listen to I say listen to everybody 490 00:24:00,030 --> 00:23:57,430 it is okay to have your mind changed if 491 00:24:02,730 --> 00:24:00,040 something goes against your grain open 492 00:24:05,910 --> 00:24:02,740 up your ears and listen it's the best 493 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:05,920 thing that you can do I was speaking 494 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:08,890 with somebody today I'm not gonna say 495 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:10,810 who but it's one of our favorite guest 496 00:24:19,770 --> 00:24:15,490 and author that I love but about about 497 00:24:22,110 --> 00:24:19,780 trying to and it just came up and with 498 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:22,120 me I didn't bring it up it came back 499 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:25,850 about trying to unite the community 500 00:24:33,669 --> 00:24:29,450 to open up your mind to all kinds of 501 00:24:35,529 --> 00:24:33,679 things and all kinds of ideas and in his 502 00:24:36,970 --> 00:24:35,539 statement he's probably listening right 503 00:24:39,700 --> 00:24:36,980 now his statement to me was an 504 00:24:45,460 --> 00:24:39,710 interesting one he said I just feel like 505 00:24:49,450 --> 00:24:45,470 we can only influence maybe 10% the rest 506 00:24:52,210 --> 00:24:49,460 the other 90% of the hardcore people in 507 00:24:56,890 --> 00:24:52,220 ufology in our community and its vast 508 00:25:00,399 --> 00:24:56,900 are closed minded and I and I disagree 509 00:25:04,870 --> 00:25:00,409 with that but it's it it made me go back 510 00:25:07,990 --> 00:25:04,880 against my a maybe I'm wrong here maybe 511 00:25:11,260 --> 00:25:08,000 I'm wrong and it's okay so now I've got 512 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:11,270 to step back and go ah maybe I'm wrong 513 00:25:19,090 --> 00:25:13,850 but see I have an open mind I didn't go 514 00:25:21,270 --> 00:25:19,100 back and say no no the other about six 515 00:25:23,260 --> 00:25:21,280 months ago when we're talking about this 516 00:25:24,820 --> 00:25:23,270 inter-dimensionally this parallel world 517 00:25:29,049 --> 00:25:24,830 thing this nuts and bolts thing 518 00:25:33,310 --> 00:25:29,059 Arita and I were in the car we're 519 00:25:36,010 --> 00:25:33,320 driving on him on a major street here in 520 00:25:38,110 --> 00:25:36,020 the valley major street there's only two 521 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:38,120 or three of the big ones we're driving 522 00:25:45,210 --> 00:25:40,730 down the street we're at a stoplight at 523 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:45,220 an intersection and at that moment Rita 524 00:25:52,659 --> 00:25:49,010 jumps forward and Rita Rita she doesn't 525 00:25:55,450 --> 00:25:52,669 she doesn't react to things 526 00:25:57,580 --> 00:25:55,460 she is very pragmatic you know and she 527 00:25:59,620 --> 00:25:57,590 is just it's things have to happen in 528 00:26:01,960 --> 00:25:59,630 front of her physically for her to 529 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:01,970 believe certain things right 530 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:04,490 her the first time she saw night vision 531 00:26:09,940 --> 00:26:06,530 and saw things going on in the sky well 532 00:26:12,159 --> 00:26:09,950 now now she's seen it so she's cool with 533 00:26:14,350 --> 00:26:12,169 that well we're in the car I'm driving 534 00:26:16,630 --> 00:26:14,360 and she leans forward because whoa whoa 535 00:26:19,090 --> 00:26:16,640 whoa whoa whoa whoa what is that 536 00:26:22,120 --> 00:26:19,100 and then she follows it this is out the 537 00:26:24,399 --> 00:26:22,130 the front window I didn't see it out the 538 00:26:25,899 --> 00:26:24,409 front window and then over to the side 539 00:26:27,820 --> 00:26:25,909 of the card she's watching out and back 540 00:26:29,529 --> 00:26:27,830 now I'm driving lights green I got a 541 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:29,539 drive I got to be safe I'm doing my 542 00:26:34,710 --> 00:26:29,770 thing 543 00:26:37,139 --> 00:26:34,720 and what she described to me was a round 544 00:26:39,779 --> 00:26:37,149 clear eye 545 00:26:41,999 --> 00:26:39,789 Jack that apparently came down very very 546 00:26:44,279 --> 00:26:42,009 close to the car and I think that she 547 00:26:46,829 --> 00:26:44,289 said and she should pop this up in 548 00:26:48,659 --> 00:26:46,839 Twitter and maybe answer exactly but I 549 00:26:52,529 --> 00:26:48,669 think you know like 10 or 15 feet above 550 00:26:56,099 --> 00:26:52,539 the car now let's stop for a second and 551 00:26:58,489 --> 00:26:56,109 think about this was it a physical 552 00:27:01,440 --> 00:26:58,499 situation was it something that was 553 00:27:03,989 --> 00:27:01,450 interdimensional was it something from a 554 00:27:05,969 --> 00:27:03,999 parallel situation that just popped into 555 00:27:09,180 --> 00:27:05,979 our world for just a second and winked 556 00:27:11,940 --> 00:27:09,190 at Rita and then and then flew off and 557 00:27:14,909 --> 00:27:11,950 went back to wherever it came from is it 558 00:27:19,499 --> 00:27:14,919 that right or are we talking about 559 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:19,509 something physical I don't know I don't 560 00:27:25,169 --> 00:27:22,330 have these answers we need to figure out 561 00:27:27,389 --> 00:27:25,179 what's going on and that's the best part 562 00:27:29,489 --> 00:27:27,399 of this community so I ask all of you 563 00:27:33,839 --> 00:27:29,499 whether it's the creation of the 564 00:27:35,999 --> 00:27:33,849 universe and physicists with with PhDs 565 00:27:38,279 --> 00:27:36,009 you know if you want to listen to that 566 00:27:41,820 --> 00:27:38,289 and if you listen to them nothing is 567 00:27:44,519 --> 00:27:41,830 going on by the way or is there 568 00:27:46,109 --> 00:27:44,529 something else going on that's what we 569 00:27:48,719 --> 00:27:46,119 have to do we have to listen to 570 00:27:48,959 --> 00:27:48,729 everybody so with that this is fade to 571 00:27:50,609 --> 00:27:48,969 black 572 00:27:52,349 --> 00:27:50,619 I'm your host Jimmy Church it's all 573 00:27:54,959 --> 00:27:52,359 about everything in this community 574 00:27:56,339 --> 00:27:54,969 having an open mind let's listen to 575 00:27:58,589 --> 00:27:56,349 everybody let's figure this thing out 576 00:28:02,909 --> 00:27:58,599 we're getting close tomorrow at 9:00 577 00:28:04,829 --> 00:28:02,919 a.m. Tom DeLonge is 4 - on to the stars 578 00:28:06,690 --> 00:28:04,839 is gonna do his big announcement on his 579 00:28:09,180 --> 00:28:06,700 live stream I encourage everybody to go 580 00:28:11,399 --> 00:28:09,190 and watch it and let's see what tom has 581 00:28:14,759 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00:32:23,970 --> 00:32:07,670 shimmy Church radio 653 00:32:23,980 --> 00:32:28,050 all right welcome back fade to black 654 00:32:32,820 --> 00:32:29,850 I'm here Jimmy Church follow me on 655 00:32:35,070 --> 00:32:32,830 twitter at JD Radio email as Jimmy and 656 00:32:35,340 --> 00:32:35,080 Jimmy church radio calm our guest 657 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:35,350 tonight 658 00:32:42,090 --> 00:32:38,890 Anthony F Sanchez author UFO highway one 659 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:42,100 of the great UFO books ever written on 660 00:32:49,530 --> 00:32:46,930 the subject rocketed Sanchez to the 661 00:32:51,750 --> 00:32:49,540 forefront of the UFO community speaking 662 00:32:55,470 --> 00:32:51,760 and it's got his conferences that he 663 00:32:58,020 --> 00:32:55,480 does up to Northern California software 664 00:33:00,740 --> 00:32:58,030 designer been working in Silicon Valley 665 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:00,750 all of that stuff but the thing about 666 00:33:06,930 --> 00:33:04,210 Anthony that I respect the most is that 667 00:33:08,460 --> 00:33:06,940 he comes on fade to black and he lets it 668 00:33:11,460 --> 00:33:08,470 all hang out and we have the best 669 00:33:15,950 --> 00:33:11,470 conversations ever I'm gonna say this I 670 00:33:18,270 --> 00:33:15,960 was up in Sacramento I'm speaking and 671 00:33:22,740 --> 00:33:18,280 somebody comes up to me and he goes hey 672 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:22,750 man check it out Anthony F Sanchez is in 673 00:33:27,570 --> 00:33:25,570 the front row I couldn't even talk I 674 00:33:30,270 --> 00:33:27,580 couldn't even I couldn't I couldn't even 675 00:33:32,580 --> 00:33:30,280 be myself because the great Anthony F 676 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:32,590 Sanchez was staring me down and I'm 677 00:33:35,190 --> 00:33:34,690 gonna welcome him back right now to fade 678 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:35,200 to black 679 00:33:39,030 --> 00:33:37,450 Anthony Sanchez Anthony good evening my 680 00:33:40,890 --> 00:33:39,040 friend how are you my lord 681 00:33:44,070 --> 00:33:40,900 what an introduction happy birthday my 682 00:33:45,930 --> 00:33:44,080 man yeah thank you so much Anthony yet 683 00:33:51,090 --> 00:33:45,940 29 never felt better 684 00:33:53,850 --> 00:33:51,100 haha right right and did you did you I 685 00:33:57,030 --> 00:33:53,860 know you remember that moment right and 686 00:33:58,830 --> 00:33:57,040 absolutely and and I gotta tell you I 687 00:33:59,550 --> 00:33:58,840 was a little intimidated I don't get 688 00:34:02,190 --> 00:33:59,560 intimidated 689 00:34:03,900 --> 00:34:02,200 Dolan's in the room right he's in the 690 00:34:06,420 --> 00:34:03,910 back we've got all you know if the 691 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:06,430 people running around and and you were 692 00:34:13,410 --> 00:34:10,930 right there rad because although thanks 693 00:34:15,990 --> 00:34:13,420 to Brad yeah yeah absolutely yeah Brad 694 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:16,000 Olson who dragged you up there I'm sure 695 00:34:18,210 --> 00:34:17,530 you were kicking and screaming but you 696 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:18,220 gave in 697 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:19,930 oh no no as soon as I heard you were 698 00:34:24,780 --> 00:34:21,970 there Jimmy I was like yeah I am there 699 00:34:27,060 --> 00:34:24,790 and my buddy of my research partner Rick 700 00:34:28,860 --> 00:34:27,070 purse tell the same thing we were like 701 00:34:30,150 --> 00:34:28,870 dude we have to go Jimmy churches in 702 00:34:32,250 --> 00:34:30,160 town it's like there's no way we're 703 00:34:33,570 --> 00:34:32,260 missing that and we were like we were 704 00:34:35,670 --> 00:34:33,580 the ones that were intimidated you're 705 00:34:37,770 --> 00:34:35,680 like dude that's Jimmy Church I couldn't 706 00:34:38,300 --> 00:34:37,780 wait you know I'm such a fan boy I'm 707 00:34:43,940 --> 00:34:38,310 like me 708 00:34:46,190 --> 00:34:43,950 I get a picture anyway and and since 709 00:34:48,260 --> 00:34:46,200 then all of the conversations that we've 710 00:34:50,660 --> 00:34:48,270 had all the shows that we've done have 711 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:50,670 been great and the response has been 712 00:34:56,570 --> 00:34:53,850 phenomenal I think that and this is this 713 00:35:01,670 --> 00:34:56,580 is my take on you before we move forward 714 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:01,680 you've you've come and gone by choice in 715 00:35:06,830 --> 00:35:03,930 and out of the limelight somewhat right 716 00:35:09,530 --> 00:35:06,840 you've gone underground and and you come 717 00:35:12,710 --> 00:35:09,540 back and and when you do your explosive 718 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:12,720 everybody loves to hear from you but I 719 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:15,930 think it's a good thing because of the 720 00:35:19,550 --> 00:35:17,970 you know the comment you haven't been 721 00:35:21,890 --> 00:35:19,560 out there week after week after week 722 00:35:25,700 --> 00:35:21,900 after week right so when you do the 723 00:35:28,100 --> 00:35:25,710 surface you've got something to say and 724 00:35:31,340 --> 00:35:28,110 I think that that is great and everybody 725 00:35:34,010 --> 00:35:31,350 has just always responded to you in such 726 00:35:36,290 --> 00:35:34,020 a positive way and so I just want to 727 00:35:38,240 --> 00:35:36,300 thank you for that and you know Jimmy 728 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:38,250 it's been that way for a reason you know 729 00:35:45,710 --> 00:35:40,650 um when I first came out with my 730 00:35:47,630 --> 00:35:45,720 information I had to you know I had to 731 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:47,640 recede back into the shadows because 732 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:49,890 it's pretty controversial what I was 733 00:35:55,370 --> 00:35:51,210 talking about you know did the whole 734 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:55,380 Dulce base thing and I was actually 735 00:35:59,150 --> 00:35:57,090 approached by people who said they were 736 00:36:00,680 --> 00:35:59,160 from AFOs I know right out of Bill Air 737 00:36:02,690 --> 00:36:00,690 Force Base and that was being threatened 738 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:02,700 right and I was talking about some 739 00:36:05,990 --> 00:36:04,530 projects you know project Leonid which 740 00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:06,000 is the low Earth orbit nano sound like 741 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:08,250 interceptor defense project and I think 742 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:10,650 want to be talking about that so you 743 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:12,690 know there were reasons why I had to 744 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:15,930 disappear the way I did in in it's only 745 00:36:22,340 --> 00:36:19,770 after a amount of time has passed and I 746 00:36:23,690 --> 00:36:22,350 feel like okay they're not going to 747 00:36:25,370 --> 00:36:23,700 pressure me and I'm not going to talk 748 00:36:27,290 --> 00:36:25,380 about that stuff anymore I can come back 749 00:36:30,140 --> 00:36:27,300 out and just you know give the 750 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:30,150 information based on my research in 751 00:36:34,580 --> 00:36:32,850 other areas but with regards to like 752 00:36:36,650 --> 00:36:34,590 Leonid you know I gave that to Linda 753 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:36,660 Moulton Howe and she has that now and 754 00:36:40,340 --> 00:36:38,970 you know whatever information that I was 755 00:36:44,570 --> 00:36:40,350 able to dig up it's over there at her 756 00:36:47,270 --> 00:36:44,580 site at Earth files and again so there 757 00:36:49,670 --> 00:36:47,280 were reasons why I had to drop out for a 758 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:49,680 bit a couple times now well and the 759 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:51,570 other thing is you know you run a con 760 00:36:56,150 --> 00:36:54,210 in a year you know you've got a software 761 00:36:59,840 --> 00:36:56,160 company that does a lot of different 762 00:37:02,060 --> 00:36:59,850 dynamic things you're not just focusing 763 00:37:05,720 --> 00:37:02,070 on one thing you've got radio and 764 00:37:09,340 --> 00:37:05,730 broadcast and and dynamics processing 765 00:37:11,990 --> 00:37:09,350 software and plugins that is complex 766 00:37:14,270 --> 00:37:12,000 hello you have that and then you have 767 00:37:17,270 --> 00:37:14,280 all of your paranormal software too as 768 00:37:20,260 --> 00:37:17,280 well right which never would have come 769 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:20,270 to fruition had I not been involved in 770 00:37:24,380 --> 00:37:22,530 developing prototype software to scan 771 00:37:27,260 --> 00:37:24,390 the ultra-high frequency to listen in on 772 00:37:29,030 --> 00:37:27,270 potential conversations at area 51 on 773 00:37:33,170 --> 00:37:29,040 the perimeter right right right 774 00:37:37,580 --> 00:37:33,180 oh I just remembered something you and I 775 00:37:39,110 --> 00:37:37,590 talked about this briefly but I mean I'm 776 00:37:42,110 --> 00:37:39,120 just gonna tell the audience this is how 777 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:42,120 much of a doofus I can be at times but 778 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:45,690 but also Anthony as well and this is 779 00:37:52,340 --> 00:37:47,690 what happened like three years ago 780 00:37:54,260 --> 00:37:52,350 Anthony contacts me about his his 781 00:37:58,640 --> 00:37:54,270 broadcast software that he's got a 782 00:38:02,600 --> 00:37:58,650 prototype out and we briefly exchanged 783 00:38:08,740 --> 00:38:02,610 emails going back and forth but I didn't 784 00:38:12,590 --> 00:38:08,750 know it was you right I didn't know and 785 00:38:15,410 --> 00:38:12,600 so this this and two years later we 786 00:38:17,980 --> 00:38:15,420 finally need and then I find out about 787 00:38:22,130 --> 00:38:17,990 that and I was like wait a minute 788 00:38:24,260 --> 00:38:22,140 did oh it was you two years ago and we 789 00:38:27,830 --> 00:38:24,270 we had talked back and forth about this 790 00:38:30,380 --> 00:38:27,840 software and getting some you needed 791 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:30,390 comments on it he wanted me to check it 792 00:38:35,630 --> 00:38:33,450 out and and made it test it and and get 793 00:38:37,730 --> 00:38:35,640 back to you and so we have this email 794 00:38:40,430 --> 00:38:37,740 exchange that went on probably for about 795 00:38:41,330 --> 00:38:40,440 a month but I didn't know it was you for 796 00:38:44,270 --> 00:38:41,340 two years 797 00:38:47,390 --> 00:38:44,280 I you know I just didn't know it it was 798 00:38:49,370 --> 00:38:47,400 just just so funny and for you not to 799 00:38:51,740 --> 00:38:49,380 come out that was the other thing though 800 00:38:53,810 --> 00:38:51,750 you didn't tell me Jimmy it's it's 801 00:38:56,300 --> 00:38:53,820 Anthony Sanchez you know you love a 802 00:38:57,260 --> 00:38:56,310 highway I'm also doing the software it 803 00:39:00,620 --> 00:38:57,270 would have been a different conversation 804 00:39:02,660 --> 00:39:00,630 between us no you know and and but 805 00:39:04,580 --> 00:39:02,670 anyway just just absolutely hilarious 806 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:04,590 how small this world 807 00:39:09,620 --> 00:39:06,570 and and I just didn't know it was you 808 00:39:14,750 --> 00:39:09,630 but you do all of these things too as 809 00:39:17,930 --> 00:39:14,760 well you're not just 100 percent full 810 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:17,940 time UFO researcher and author writing 811 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:21,090 books publishing out there on the UFO 812 00:39:25,490 --> 00:39:23,610 circuit you've also got this pretty 813 00:39:27,410 --> 00:39:25,500 dynamic software company that you're 814 00:39:29,390 --> 00:39:27,420 running at the same time right that's 815 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:29,400 how I make my living night you know I 816 00:39:33,350 --> 00:39:31,770 spent years working at you know big 817 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:33,360 semiconductor firms like Intel 818 00:39:37,580 --> 00:39:36,090 Corporation NEC Hilda Packard that was 819 00:39:40,370 --> 00:39:37,590 actually the first corporate webmaster 820 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:40,380 for 3com in the Bay Area back in the mid 821 00:39:46,190 --> 00:39:43,890 90s and so I have a long history with 822 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:46,200 Silicon Valley I was born and raised in 823 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:48,330 San Jose and I was programming from the 824 00:39:53,990 --> 00:39:52,050 time that I was 10 and now in my old age 825 00:39:55,910 --> 00:39:54,000 you know I get to run these cool little 826 00:39:56,270 --> 00:39:55,920 software companies that's how I make my 827 00:39:59,420 --> 00:39:56,280 living 828 00:40:00,620 --> 00:39:59,430 I still have trance ulting gigs every 829 00:40:02,930 --> 00:40:00,630 once in a while but like the state of 830 00:40:05,540 --> 00:40:02,940 California or you know some private 831 00:40:08,540 --> 00:40:05,550 sector firms but for the most part I'm 832 00:40:10,970 --> 00:40:08,550 now you know pro radio tools is my one 833 00:40:13,700 --> 00:40:10,980 company for the radio stop UFO highways 834 00:40:15,860 --> 00:40:13,710 to book and then I have the ghost honey 835 00:40:21,050 --> 00:40:15,870 go sending apps ghost hunter apps 836 00:40:23,810 --> 00:40:21,060 software so for the paranormal it's a 837 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:23,820 nice life you know I like it it's I'm 838 00:40:30,890 --> 00:40:27,090 not I'm not you know shopping at Saks 839 00:40:33,830 --> 00:40:30,900 Fifth Avenue but I'm doing okay well and 840 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:33,840 this is this is where things start to 841 00:40:40,730 --> 00:40:36,770 get interesting because you have been 842 00:40:42,470 --> 00:40:40,740 through all the phases of ufology and 843 00:40:44,810 --> 00:40:42,480 the different concepts and theories 844 00:40:48,230 --> 00:40:44,820 about what is actually going on out 845 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:48,240 there and I think that we can pretty 846 00:40:54,650 --> 00:40:52,650 much draw a few lines in each decade and 847 00:40:57,830 --> 00:40:54,660 get some definitions going where we had 848 00:41:01,180 --> 00:40:57,840 you know flying saucers in the 40s and 849 00:41:02,420 --> 00:41:01,190 50s and then we had cigar-shaped 850 00:41:05,180 --> 00:41:02,430 motherships 851 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:05,190 you know in this fit late 50s and 852 00:41:12,470 --> 00:41:08,850 throughout the 60s and 70s saw another 853 00:41:14,150 --> 00:41:12,480 wave of black triangles that went all 854 00:41:16,010 --> 00:41:14,160 the way through the 80s I even 855 00:41:16,790 --> 00:41:16,020 photographed one myself and I've seen 856 00:41:20,260 --> 00:41:16,800 one 857 00:41:24,470 --> 00:41:20,270 so there there's that and then the last 858 00:41:27,620 --> 00:41:24,480 certainly the last let's say 10 years 859 00:41:29,870 --> 00:41:27,630 you know james gilliland and and some of 860 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:29,880 these other this night-vision stuff that 861 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:33,210 has been going on out there and the 862 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:35,970 American Indians and and the Brown 863 00:41:40,130 --> 00:41:37,890 Mountain lights and different things 864 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:40,140 going around the country where there are 865 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:43,770 these I don't know what to say is going 866 00:41:48,350 --> 00:41:46,650 on I've witnessed it but now we are 867 00:41:52,220 --> 00:41:48,360 dealing with something that may not even 868 00:41:56,690 --> 00:41:52,230 be physical and then you combine that 869 00:42:00,710 --> 00:41:56,700 with Bigfoot and you know the appearance 870 00:42:02,930 --> 00:42:00,720 of grays and different ETS traveling 871 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:02,940 through walls and ceilings and appearing 872 00:42:07,220 --> 00:42:04,890 and disappearing it and there's so 873 00:42:08,900 --> 00:42:07,230 there's that and we're trying to wrap 874 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:08,910 our head around trying to figure out 875 00:42:16,190 --> 00:42:11,850 what's going on is it all let's start 876 00:42:19,580 --> 00:42:16,200 here is it all the same is everything 877 00:42:22,250 --> 00:42:19,590 the same going back to Ezekiel and his 878 00:42:26,270 --> 00:42:22,260 three is wheel inside of a wheel in the 879 00:42:28,820 --> 00:42:26,280 Bible is everything just the same you 880 00:42:30,950 --> 00:42:28,830 know no nothing is the same I mean um 881 00:42:32,630 --> 00:42:30,960 you there are so many different 882 00:42:35,030 --> 00:42:32,640 considerations when you talk about the 883 00:42:37,130 --> 00:42:35,040 UFO question and tonight we're going to 884 00:42:39,740 --> 00:42:37,140 be talking about the introduction 885 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:39,750 aquestion and possibility of parallel 886 00:42:46,220 --> 00:42:43,410 worlds even ET and alien contact from 887 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:46,230 other dimensions in none of it's the 888 00:42:51,590 --> 00:42:48,810 same there is such a there's such a wide 889 00:42:54,260 --> 00:42:51,600 array of information that covers the 890 00:42:56,030 --> 00:42:54,270 entire UFO question yeah when you talk 891 00:42:59,270 --> 00:42:56,040 about interdimensional t the first thing 892 00:43:01,430 --> 00:42:59,280 that you have to ask is or think about 893 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:01,440 is kind of human being survived in the 894 00:43:07,790 --> 00:43:05,210 fourth dimension right the answer is no 895 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:07,800 you see our universe consists of three 896 00:43:13,070 --> 00:43:09,330 spatial dimensions that is in 897 00:43:16,130 --> 00:43:13,080 mathematical or geometric terms 3d space 898 00:43:18,170 --> 00:43:16,140 is best understood as what we as what we 899 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:18,180 known we know if you if you went to high 900 00:43:22,430 --> 00:43:20,130 school in the you study geometry the 901 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:22,440 Cartesian coordinate system which is a 902 00:43:26,870 --> 00:43:24,570 geometric setting where there are values 903 00:43:28,910 --> 00:43:26,880 representing coordinates and this is 904 00:43:30,210 --> 00:43:28,920 important we have the X and y axis and 905 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:30,220 the z axis 906 00:43:36,810 --> 00:43:32,530 now on the deeper scientific 907 00:43:40,589 --> 00:43:36,820 understanding that Cartesian model needs 908 00:43:42,420 --> 00:43:40,599 to be augmented for to show our universe 909 00:43:45,290 --> 00:43:42,430 at least mathematically so our 910 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:45,300 three-dimensional reality under what is 911 00:43:51,599 --> 00:43:49,450 known as Cartesian then jumps into what 912 00:43:53,970 --> 00:43:51,609 is known as Euclidean space right that's 913 00:43:56,550 --> 00:43:53,980 where all points in three-dimensional 914 00:43:58,859 --> 00:43:56,560 space are determined by the recording 915 00:44:02,700 --> 00:43:58,869 it's however with the Euclidean space 916 00:44:05,820 --> 00:44:02,710 with Euclidean spaces we can generalize 917 00:44:08,130 --> 00:44:05,830 to understand higher dimensions and this 918 00:44:10,020 --> 00:44:08,140 is where we begin to talk of four 919 00:44:12,890 --> 00:44:10,030 dimensions four dimensional space the 920 00:44:15,180 --> 00:44:12,900 concept of a fourth spatial dimension 921 00:44:16,470 --> 00:44:15,190 you know if you ever watch Star Trek you 922 00:44:18,839 --> 00:44:16,480 talk they talked about the space-time 923 00:44:22,349 --> 00:44:18,849 continuum what they're talking about is 924 00:44:25,380 --> 00:44:22,359 the unification of time as a variable 925 00:44:27,839 --> 00:44:25,390 and space as a four-dimensional 926 00:44:30,839 --> 00:44:27,849 continuum where time or let's let's 927 00:44:32,910 --> 00:44:30,849 think of it as a variable T it has only 928 00:44:35,460 --> 00:44:32,920 a mathematical value and it holds no 929 00:44:38,609 --> 00:44:35,470 primary physical existence 930 00:44:40,740 --> 00:44:38,619 remember Einstein once said time has no 931 00:44:42,750 --> 00:44:40,750 independent existence apart from the 932 00:44:46,470 --> 00:44:42,760 order of events by which we measure it 933 00:44:49,470 --> 00:44:46,480 four dimensions three spatial plus time 934 00:44:53,490 --> 00:44:49,480 and that's how he laid it out in his 935 00:44:55,140 --> 00:44:53,500 general theory of relativity aliens ETS 936 00:44:58,260 --> 00:44:55,150 are we being visited from 937 00:45:01,770 --> 00:44:58,270 four-dimensional space possibly but not 938 00:45:04,260 --> 00:45:01,780 via metallic base metallic base UFOs or 939 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:04,270 as physical greys tall whites reptilians 940 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:07,930 etc not as we know them which takes us 941 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:09,490 back to that original question can a 942 00:45:15,089 --> 00:45:11,050 human being survive in the fourth 943 00:45:18,359 --> 00:45:15,099 dimension no so likewise a physical 944 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:18,369 biological alien traveling in metallic 945 00:45:23,190 --> 00:45:20,970 based UFOs cannot as well you see a 946 00:45:25,890 --> 00:45:23,200 dimension is a direction 947 00:45:28,109 --> 00:45:25,900 remember the Cartesian model x y&z 948 00:45:31,500 --> 00:45:28,119 coordinates defining our physical 949 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:31,510 existence our physical matter and that's 950 00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:33,930 an easy that's easy to digest right 951 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:37,690 right we also get that that that idea 952 00:45:43,559 --> 00:45:41,170 that that is simple height width depth 953 00:45:45,209 --> 00:45:43,569 right three points you 954 00:45:47,009 --> 00:45:45,219 to have a physical model at that point 955 00:45:48,779 --> 00:45:47,019 and here's where it gets tricky 956 00:45:51,599 --> 00:45:48,789 so in the four dimension in 957 00:45:54,150 --> 00:45:51,609 four-dimensional space there is nothing 958 00:45:57,449 --> 00:45:54,160 supporting our physical body thus if we 959 00:46:01,439 --> 00:45:57,459 suddenly poured it into a 4d reality we 960 00:46:04,109 --> 00:46:01,449 now have new extra dimensions and so our 961 00:46:06,870 --> 00:46:04,119 organs our muscles our tissue etc would 962 00:46:09,329 --> 00:46:06,880 follow the path of least resistance and 963 00:46:11,430 --> 00:46:09,339 thus would most likely transform into a 964 00:46:15,439 --> 00:46:11,440 liquid state immediately dying but you 965 00:46:17,849 --> 00:46:15,449 know what in a four dean reality 966 00:46:20,249 --> 00:46:17,859 radiation would still exist electrical 967 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:20,259 signals what signals would persist right 968 00:46:25,890 --> 00:46:23,650 gamma rays etc the known properties of 969 00:46:27,390 --> 00:46:25,900 the universe would still apply possibly 970 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:27,400 there will be some that were unaware of 971 00:46:30,749 --> 00:46:29,170 because none of us have ever existed in 972 00:46:34,769 --> 00:46:30,759 4d reality and we're still studying that 973 00:46:37,170 --> 00:46:34,779 science but this means aliens consisting 974 00:46:39,089 --> 00:46:37,180 of electrical energy could exist and 975 00:46:42,630 --> 00:46:39,099 live in a reality that operates on a 976 00:46:45,209 --> 00:46:42,640 non-physical but energy driven thought 977 00:46:47,099 --> 00:46:45,219 based universe now the question people 978 00:46:49,259 --> 00:46:47,109 want to know is how do these 979 00:46:52,459 --> 00:46:49,269 interventional enter dimensional beings 980 00:46:56,039 --> 00:46:52,469 visit us how do they communicate I 981 00:46:58,699 --> 00:46:56,049 personally believe that interdimensional 982 00:47:01,349 --> 00:46:58,709 beings operate on a higher frequency 983 00:47:05,009 --> 00:47:01,359 that they can manipulate to access us 984 00:47:07,009 --> 00:47:05,019 and our 3d existence there are some 985 00:47:09,539 --> 00:47:07,019 scientists right now who believe 986 00:47:12,059 --> 00:47:09,549 signatures of four-dimensional space are 987 00:47:15,059 --> 00:47:12,069 identifiable and that they appear as 988 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:15,069 interference patterns they claim that 989 00:47:19,039 --> 00:47:16,930 small black holes created at the 990 00:47:22,259 --> 00:47:19,049 beginning of the universe persist and 991 00:47:23,910 --> 00:47:22,269 now some of them are wormholes these 992 00:47:26,999 --> 00:47:23,920 would be portals from four-dimensional 993 00:47:28,769 --> 00:47:27,009 space into our three-dimensional space 994 00:47:31,249 --> 00:47:28,779 they think that black holes act as 995 00:47:34,549 --> 00:47:31,259 impeding obstacles that can produce 996 00:47:37,439 --> 00:47:34,559 interference patterns in the wake of 997 00:47:40,289 --> 00:47:37,449 something like gamma rays but all of 998 00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:40,299 that what that tells us is that four 999 00:47:44,699 --> 00:47:41,650 dimensional space is something that is 1000 00:47:47,309 --> 00:47:44,709 no longer outside of our understanding 1001 00:47:50,789 --> 00:47:47,319 per se nor can we fully discount that 1002 00:47:53,519 --> 00:47:50,799 entities from 4d space can make contact 1003 00:47:57,549 --> 00:47:53,529 with us now a lot of people have stories 1004 00:48:01,279 --> 00:47:59,509 now this might be jumping into the 1005 00:48:04,099 --> 00:48:01,289 paranormal side but people say they see 1006 00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:04,109 full-body apparitions appear right we're 1007 00:48:09,940 --> 00:48:07,890 worthy of those coming from right sir 1008 00:48:12,559 --> 00:48:09,950 people that say they see shadow figures 1009 00:48:14,359 --> 00:48:12,569 with electrical signatures where are 1010 00:48:15,980 --> 00:48:14,369 those coming from that's right there's 1011 00:48:17,470 --> 00:48:15,990 the possibility that these things could 1012 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:17,480 be coming from four dimensional space 1013 00:48:23,180 --> 00:48:20,450 utilizing these so-called you know 1014 00:48:25,940 --> 00:48:23,190 wormholes or you know what we understand 1015 00:48:30,230 --> 00:48:25,950 imagine these black holes well I've 1016 00:48:31,670 --> 00:48:30,240 often thought when somebody mentions you 1017 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:31,680 know traveling in a wormhole or 1018 00:48:39,589 --> 00:48:34,890 traveling into a black hole 1019 00:48:42,470 --> 00:48:39,599 look if we indeed if we go with the 1020 00:48:45,559 --> 00:48:42,480 Hawking idea here where everything had 1021 00:48:48,890 --> 00:48:45,569 stretched out and you now are a string 1022 00:48:51,799 --> 00:48:48,900 of atoms right well on the other end 1023 00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:51,809 somebody please help me here how are we 1024 00:48:59,180 --> 00:48:55,890 reassembled or not matter here you're 1025 00:49:01,970 --> 00:48:59,190 destroyed but and it wasn't that long 1026 00:49:03,859 --> 00:49:01,980 ago Jimmy that we that even Hawking 1027 00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:03,869 believe that anything entering the black 1028 00:49:10,009 --> 00:49:07,650 hole was obliterated into nothing into 1029 00:49:12,700 --> 00:49:10,019 nothingness essentially and it was just 1030 00:49:18,349 --> 00:49:12,710 recently that Stephen Hawking himself 1031 00:49:20,839 --> 00:49:18,359 admitted that in actuality what goes 1032 00:49:25,039 --> 00:49:20,849 through a black hole emerges as 1033 00:49:26,900 --> 00:49:25,049 information thus supporting this theory 1034 00:49:30,319 --> 00:49:26,910 that something from four-dimensional 1035 00:49:35,420 --> 00:49:30,329 space can in fact go through a wormhole 1036 00:49:38,059 --> 00:49:35,430 ie a black or a black hole emerging to 1037 00:49:43,700 --> 00:49:38,069 our reality and what as information 1038 00:49:46,069 --> 00:49:43,710 that's right and so thought memory light 1039 00:49:50,150 --> 00:49:46,079 being if you will you know something 1040 00:49:53,569 --> 00:49:50,160 that is completely energy based thoughts 1041 00:49:57,430 --> 00:49:53,579 memories of the programming software all 1042 00:50:00,950 --> 00:49:57,440 you know all of this ones and zeros 1043 00:50:02,839 --> 00:50:00,960 electromagnetic idea all of that that is 1044 00:50:05,870 --> 00:50:02,849 not going to get destroyed that is 1045 00:50:09,430 --> 00:50:05,880 merely information that that I'm cool 1046 00:50:13,510 --> 00:50:09,440 with which makes sense coming back into 1047 00:50:16,300 --> 00:50:13,520 our reality here also if the all of that 1048 00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:16,310 is true if we accept that as being 1049 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:19,610 possible which I do then we are also 1050 00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:22,850 talking about if we use Holograms today 1051 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:26,090 right right that's that's energy that's 1052 00:50:30,310 --> 00:50:28,010 lightweight that that is nothing more 1053 00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:30,320 than just a projection it's not physical 1054 00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:32,330 you can put your hand through it but yet 1055 00:50:38,620 --> 00:50:35,210 you see it and I'm ok with that 1056 00:50:41,620 --> 00:50:38,630 and if we accept one and and then we 1057 00:50:46,210 --> 00:50:41,630 have to accept the other write binary 1058 00:50:50,890 --> 00:50:46,220 structures you know binary signatures in 1059 00:50:52,990 --> 00:50:50,900 in the in the in the contract of light 1060 00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:53,000 makes sense you know as far as 1061 00:50:58,540 --> 00:50:54,770 information being transferred you know 1062 00:51:01,000 --> 00:50:58,550 between rounds where one corporeal being 1063 00:51:02,740 --> 00:51:01,010 could not exist in another because it's 1064 00:51:05,110 --> 00:51:02,750 not to say that in a four-dimensional 1065 00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:05,120 reality there are no physical existing 1066 00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:08,450 beings it's just that it's unfathomable 1067 00:51:15,190 --> 00:51:13,130 as far as args what we understand as as 1068 00:51:17,830 --> 00:51:15,200 us being three-dimensional be we could 1069 00:51:20,100 --> 00:51:17,840 not exist in the environment there could 1070 00:51:22,210 --> 00:51:20,110 be something else over there 1071 00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:22,220 absorbing the information that we're 1072 00:51:27,790 --> 00:51:25,490 sending out well help me understand that 1073 00:51:29,890 --> 00:51:27,800 for a second about not being able to 1074 00:51:32,620 --> 00:51:29,900 survive in 4d let's come back to that 1075 00:51:35,860 --> 00:51:32,630 for a second I I just had a thought you 1076 00:51:38,730 --> 00:51:35,870 remember the movie ai Spielberg right in 1077 00:51:42,010 --> 00:51:38,740 the end of the movie much in the future 1078 00:51:45,250 --> 00:51:42,020 when he jumps ahead and the city is now 1079 00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:45,260 covered in ice right and they go down 1080 00:51:49,660 --> 00:51:47,570 and the light beings remember their ship 1081 00:51:51,550 --> 00:51:49,670 the cube that disassembled that was 1082 00:51:53,350 --> 00:51:51,560 brilliant by the way Spielberg knows 1083 00:51:57,610 --> 00:51:53,360 something he just knows something but 1084 00:51:59,650 --> 00:51:57,620 anyway the the et's those light beings 1085 00:52:01,780 --> 00:51:59,660 that were here on earth now checking us 1086 00:52:06,210 --> 00:52:01,790 out their archaeologist right they're 1087 00:52:09,940 --> 00:52:06,220 digging are are beings of light there 1088 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:09,950 that doesn't necessarily mean that 1089 00:52:17,340 --> 00:52:12,010 because you got to remember this to me 1090 00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:17,350 light is physical at the atomic level 1091 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:20,210 like atoms everything everything 1092 00:52:22,859 --> 00:52:22,010 consists of atoms in this universe does 1093 00:52:27,340 --> 00:52:22,869 that or what 1094 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:27,350 what element it is the physicality at 1095 00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:34,010 the very micro man you you know idea is 1096 00:52:39,370 --> 00:52:37,970 is is atomic now that you have the 1097 00:52:43,050 --> 00:52:39,380 subatomic but even at the subatomic 1098 00:52:47,290 --> 00:52:43,060 level you still have physical properties 1099 00:52:49,180 --> 00:52:47,300 so that does open up a lot of questions 1100 00:52:51,370 --> 00:52:49,190 with regards to you know this is this 1101 00:52:53,530 --> 00:52:51,380 these existences this is distance in a 1102 00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:53,540 four dimensional space in four 1103 00:53:00,310 --> 00:52:57,530 dimensional space and does do they have 1104 00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:00,320 the ability the ability to manifest over 1105 00:53:06,670 --> 00:53:02,570 here in our dimensional an art three 1106 00:53:09,990 --> 00:53:06,680 dimensional space it's more likely to to 1107 00:53:11,890 --> 00:53:10,000 be a positive as opposed to us our 1108 00:53:13,359 --> 00:53:11,900 three-dimensional forms being able to 1109 00:53:16,030 --> 00:53:13,369 exist in their four dimensional space 1110 00:53:22,300 --> 00:53:16,040 the reason why that's not possible is 1111 00:53:23,530 --> 00:53:22,310 because you have what you have not when 1112 00:53:25,540 --> 00:53:23,540 you go into a four dimensional space 1113 00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:25,550 there's actually other there's actually 1114 00:53:29,470 --> 00:53:27,290 other dimensional properties that come 1115 00:53:30,910 --> 00:53:29,480 into play now I'm not a physicist so I 1116 00:53:33,849 --> 00:53:30,920 can't recall all of them off the top of 1117 00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:33,859 my head but I do know that what we exist 1118 00:53:38,950 --> 00:53:36,410 as could not be supported in that 1119 00:53:41,140 --> 00:53:38,960 environment and we would literally you 1120 00:53:44,859 --> 00:53:41,150 know figuratively 1121 00:53:46,420 --> 00:53:44,869 you know transform into what we would 1122 00:53:48,550 --> 00:53:46,430 what we would think of it's a liquid 1123 00:53:51,670 --> 00:53:48,560 state yeah nothing would be supported 1124 00:53:53,140 --> 00:53:51,680 well and there is okay you know what 1125 00:53:55,150 --> 00:53:53,150 we're gonna hit a break so I want to get 1126 00:53:58,690 --> 00:53:55,160 a couple of these questions in off of 1127 00:54:01,510 --> 00:53:58,700 Twitter Scott says does this mean that 1128 00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:01,520 aliens could be right next to us and we 1129 00:54:07,109 --> 00:54:05,450 wouldn't know right that's an absolute 1130 00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:07,119 possibility and there are a lot of 1131 00:54:12,570 --> 00:54:09,650 people to believe that that is the case 1132 00:54:16,420 --> 00:54:12,580 that we are constantly surrounded by 1133 00:54:18,940 --> 00:54:16,430 unseen forms of energy that are 1134 00:54:22,359 --> 00:54:18,950 essentially extraterrestrial in origin 1135 00:54:23,980 --> 00:54:22,369 they're not from not from other planets 1136 00:54:28,990 --> 00:54:23,990 but from another realm another 1137 00:54:32,590 --> 00:54:29,000 dimensional realm Nancy just said okay 1138 00:54:34,210 --> 00:54:32,600 entity attachments are they four or 1139 00:54:36,700 --> 00:54:34,220 three dimensional 1140 00:54:40,859 --> 00:54:36,710 they wouldn't be three-dimensional if 1141 00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:40,869 they're if they're if they're based on 1142 00:54:46,990 --> 00:54:43,970 something that's visibly physical if the 1143 00:54:48,430 --> 00:54:47,000 if it's enter if it's an energy if you 1144 00:54:51,750 --> 00:54:48,440 if she's talking to like a negative 1145 00:54:54,550 --> 00:54:51,760 energy attachment then it would be 1146 00:54:57,730 --> 00:54:54,560 possibly it would be fourth dimensional 1147 00:55:01,180 --> 00:54:57,740 in the form of energy like electrical 1148 00:55:03,339 --> 00:55:01,190 signals or radiation for instance a lot 1149 00:55:04,870 --> 00:55:03,349 of the people that use the paranormal 1150 00:55:08,770 --> 00:55:04,880 that investigate the paranormal they're 1151 00:55:11,530 --> 00:55:08,780 using electric electromagnetic detection 1152 00:55:13,510 --> 00:55:11,540 devices right like the k2 meter which 1153 00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:13,520 detect radio frequency interference or 1154 00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:16,490 electromagnetic interference remember 1155 00:55:22,830 --> 00:55:18,410 how I mentioned that scientists now 1156 00:55:25,300 --> 00:55:22,840 believe that there are identifiable 1157 00:55:26,830 --> 00:55:25,310 interference patterns in the fourth from 1158 00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:26,840 the fourth dimension that we can detect 1159 00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:28,490 because of these black holes and there 1160 00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:33,290 and acting as impeding objects that 1161 00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:35,810 disrupt gamma rays and other physical 1162 00:55:41,950 --> 00:55:39,490 other type of you know radiation yes 1163 00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:41,960 that's sort of what it that's sort of 1164 00:55:49,450 --> 00:55:44,810 what a k2 meter is doing if the physical 1165 00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:49,460 environment is being affected on on that 1166 00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:52,130 level then a k2 meter is going to detect 1167 00:55:56,530 --> 00:55:54,290 an electromagnetic interference so 1168 00:55:58,720 --> 00:55:56,540 they're kind of augmenting that whole 1169 00:56:04,000 --> 00:55:58,730 concept scientifically for fourth 1170 00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:04,010 dimensional space so yeah it's it could 1171 00:56:07,930 --> 00:56:05,810 I mean I'm not again I'm not a physicist 1172 00:56:10,540 --> 00:56:07,940 but in 30 spatial dimensions there could 1173 00:56:12,099 --> 00:56:10,550 be energy I mean there is dead there 1174 00:56:13,599 --> 00:56:12,109 definitely is energy so it could be 1175 00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:13,609 three dimensional or four dimensional 1176 00:56:18,670 --> 00:56:14,930 that's something that we would have to 1177 00:56:22,329 --> 00:56:18,680 study you know a much much further on to 1178 00:56:24,190 --> 00:56:22,339 try and determine now let's take a break 1179 00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:24,200 right here when we come back I'm going 1180 00:56:30,370 --> 00:56:27,170 to continue with Anthony this question 1181 00:56:32,650 --> 00:56:30,380 about 4d and time and turning us into 1182 00:56:34,690 --> 00:56:32,660 liquid and us not being able to survive 1183 00:56:36,609 --> 00:56:34,700 there we're gonna continue with that but 1184 00:56:39,910 --> 00:56:36,619 we've got to get into what these objects 1185 00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:39,920 are that we're seeing in the skies it's 1186 00:56:44,260 --> 00:56:41,690 a very interesting side of things 1187 00:56:46,390 --> 00:56:44,270 parallel worlds is it interdimensional 1188 00:56:47,830 --> 00:56:46,400 are they physical is it plasma is it 1189 00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:47,840 light is it energy 1190 00:56:52,900 --> 00:56:51,290 we don't know I think Anthony does we'll 1191 00:56:53,350 --> 00:56:52,910 find out after this short break stay 1192 00:57:06,670 --> 00:56:53,360 with us 1193 00:57:11,820 --> 00:57:09,050 [Music] 1194 00:57:14,270 --> 00:57:11,830 this is fade to black with Jimmy Church 1195 00:57:18,500 --> 00:57:14,280 on the game changer radio network 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across the globe 1252 01:00:19,110 --> 01:00:15,990 on the GameChanger radio network and the 1253 01:00:23,130 --> 01:00:19,120 one and only kgr a radio the planet 1254 01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:23,140 [Music] 1255 01:00:39,820 --> 01:00:23,690 [Applause] 1256 01:00:42,349 --> 01:00:39,830 [Music] 1257 01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:42,359 all right welcome back fade to black our 1258 01:00:47,570 --> 01:00:42,810 guest tonight 1259 01:00:49,070 --> 01:00:47,580 Anthony F Sanchez this is fade to black 1260 01:00:52,550 --> 01:00:49,080 on the old Street Church follow us on 1261 01:00:55,940 --> 01:00:52,560 twitter at JT radio simple enough the 1262 01:00:58,640 --> 01:00:55,950 conversations happen hashtag F 2 B is 1263 01:01:01,099 --> 01:00:58,650 the sandbox we have our chat rooms are 1264 01:01:03,500 --> 01:01:01,109 always live and open over K G RA the 1265 01:01:05,300 --> 01:01:03,510 planet or over at Spreaker everything is 1266 01:01:08,090 --> 01:01:05,310 real-time and right in front of me now 1267 01:01:11,690 --> 01:01:08,100 Anthony I got to ask you yes sir what's 1268 01:01:14,390 --> 01:01:11,700 the F for because Richard Richard bleep 1269 01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:14,400 and Dolan has already got dibs on the F 1270 01:01:20,270 --> 01:01:18,090 so what's the F for Sicilian my friend 1271 01:01:23,750 --> 01:01:20,280 is Federico oh man that's not fun you 1272 01:01:26,930 --> 01:01:23,760 were supposed to say something just so 1273 01:01:28,700 --> 01:01:26,940 there you go Anthony F Sanchez I can't 1274 01:01:33,670 --> 01:01:28,710 go with the middle initial I just can't 1275 01:01:46,310 --> 01:01:43,220 okay okay now the the 4d aspect is is 1276 01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:46,320 one thing and when we apply time as that 1277 01:01:53,060 --> 01:01:48,570 fourth dimension this is where it gets 1278 01:01:58,870 --> 01:01:53,070 complicated for me in space-time goes in 1279 01:02:01,520 --> 01:01:58,880 every direction right right okay now you 1280 01:02:07,370 --> 01:02:01,530 whatever direction you're going in that 1281 01:02:12,380 --> 01:02:07,380 is time as opposed to in space down 1282 01:02:16,130 --> 01:02:12,390 backwards right behind now it's it's 1283 01:02:18,050 --> 01:02:16,140 it's everywhere time is everywhere it 1284 01:02:23,270 --> 01:02:18,060 starts to mess with my head a little bit 1285 01:02:25,910 --> 01:02:23,280 and if we go into that 4d space and we 1286 01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:25,920 can't survive there which I understand 1287 01:02:31,670 --> 01:02:29,130 but our mind could right are you what 1288 01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:31,680 about a USB Drive what about a digital 1289 01:02:39,740 --> 01:02:38,010 version of ourselves remember think 1290 01:02:43,070 --> 01:02:39,750 about fiber optics right 1291 01:02:47,210 --> 01:02:43,080 um fiber optic cables do what they send 1292 01:02:50,870 --> 01:02:47,220 information across let strings right 1293 01:02:52,430 --> 01:02:50,880 it's utilizing glass and a very very you 1294 01:02:54,950 --> 01:02:52,440 know find level 1295 01:02:59,290 --> 01:02:54,960 and they're sending signals across a 1296 01:03:01,280 --> 01:02:59,300 channel via light right now 1297 01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:01,290 you can really get into some cool 1298 01:03:08,569 --> 01:03:06,450 conversations here but time time is you 1299 01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:08,579 have to remember the time only has a 1300 01:03:12,890 --> 01:03:10,290 mathematical value once you start 1301 01:03:16,099 --> 01:03:12,900 discussing space-time because that's 1302 01:03:19,059 --> 01:03:16,109 when you're your unifying that remember 1303 01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:19,069 we talked about the the Cartesian and 1304 01:03:27,319 --> 01:03:22,770 Euclidean methods or models right so 1305 01:03:29,140 --> 01:03:27,329 when when you unify time with either of 1306 01:03:32,690 --> 01:03:29,150 those well essentially the Euclidean 1307 01:03:36,589 --> 01:03:32,700 model that's when we start just cutting 1308 01:03:38,809 --> 01:03:36,599 having a four-dimensional discussion so 1309 01:03:40,150 --> 01:03:38,819 try the second stein said time has no 1310 01:03:43,359 --> 01:03:40,160 independent existence 1311 01:03:47,569 --> 01:03:43,369 existence apart from the order of events 1312 01:03:49,940 --> 01:03:47,579 Bob which it's measured so it yeah I 1313 01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:49,950 mean it gets really confusing you know 1314 01:03:55,970 --> 01:03:52,410 to the layperson like myself at that 1315 01:03:57,620 --> 01:03:55,980 point but remember it's once we start 1316 01:04:02,059 --> 01:03:57,630 talking about a four-dimensional 1317 01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:02,069 continuum utilizing same as a parameter 1318 01:04:08,660 --> 01:04:05,730 in a mathematical form that's where we 1319 01:04:14,540 --> 01:04:08,670 get to start that's where we can begin 1320 01:04:16,910 --> 01:04:14,550 to draw graphs and visualize the general 1321 01:04:19,940 --> 01:04:16,920 theory of relativity or parts of it 1322 01:04:22,030 --> 01:04:19,950 where we can see folds in space we can 1323 01:04:30,290 --> 01:04:22,040 see the effects of gravity in space 1324 01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:30,300 where we now know that space space can 1325 01:04:37,849 --> 01:04:33,650 be affected by forces such as gravity 1326 01:04:40,099 --> 01:04:37,859 now I don't understand grab the 1327 01:04:42,559 --> 01:04:40,109 gravitational effect in a fork in the 1328 01:04:44,540 --> 01:04:42,569 four-dimensional and a force space in 1329 01:04:47,150 --> 01:04:44,550 four spatial dimensions but I do in 1330 01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:47,160 three spatial instance just based on 1331 01:04:51,859 --> 01:04:49,290 what I learned in school but again once 1332 01:04:53,690 --> 01:04:51,869 you start getting into the theory of the 1333 01:04:54,500 --> 01:04:53,700 general theory of relativity that's 1334 01:04:57,829 --> 01:04:54,510 where you really have to be a 1335 01:05:00,950 --> 01:04:57,839 mathematician and orifices to to truly 1336 01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:00,960 get what that means but that doesn't 1337 01:05:12,180 --> 01:05:04,810 that doesn't stay that we cannot have a 1338 01:05:17,070 --> 01:05:12,190 discussion on you know the UFO question 1339 01:05:20,100 --> 01:05:17,080 and the potentiality of for mental beans 1340 01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:20,110 actually existing and communicating and 1341 01:05:27,930 --> 01:05:24,850 reaching across their forty reality into 1342 01:05:31,500 --> 01:05:27,940 our thirty reality and well and then 1343 01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:31,510 there is this when we are literally 1344 01:05:39,500 --> 01:05:34,330 talking about physical things that 1345 01:05:43,590 --> 01:05:39,510 people see including myself and you the 1346 01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:43,600 these these ships I'm calling them ships 1347 01:05:50,910 --> 01:05:47,890 these and objects these some of them I 1348 01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:50,920 have seen where they appear to be 1349 01:05:57,600 --> 01:05:54,610 metallic reflecting okay so we have that 1350 01:05:59,670 --> 01:05:57,610 issue so let's put that to the side for 1351 01:06:03,930 --> 01:05:59,680 a second let's let that simmer and then 1352 01:06:07,860 --> 01:06:03,940 we have what appears to be craft that 1353 01:06:11,130 --> 01:06:07,870 are purely light you know there there 1354 01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:11,140 seems to be just an energy there now 1355 01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:13,690 what what are we talking about with 1356 01:06:17,730 --> 01:06:15,850 these light objects that you can see you 1357 01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:17,740 can see them with light vision night 1358 01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:19,690 vision you can see them with your two 1359 01:06:24,810 --> 01:06:22,570 eyes they are there and if it's our 1360 01:06:26,610 --> 01:06:24,820 technology then we are definitely 1361 01:06:29,220 --> 01:06:26,620 dealing with some black projects that 1362 01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:29,230 the government is keeping hidden from us 1363 01:06:35,610 --> 01:06:32,410 but if it's et what are we dealing with 1364 01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:35,620 right that's why I always like to have a 1365 01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:38,530 pragmatic approach towards the 1366 01:06:43,350 --> 01:06:41,170 theoretical considerations right because 1367 01:06:46,020 --> 01:06:43,360 one of the things that I deal with as a 1368 01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:46,030 researcher is I definitely look into 1369 01:06:50,370 --> 01:06:48,850 black projects I live right next to Bill 1370 01:06:52,890 --> 01:06:50,380 Air Force Base which is the most heavily 1371 01:06:56,790 --> 01:06:52,900 black budgeted Air Force instant 1372 01:06:58,950 --> 01:06:56,800 installation on the planet and I can 1373 01:07:03,920 --> 01:06:58,960 tell you that there are technologies 1374 01:07:09,060 --> 01:07:03,930 that we have delved into that touch on 1375 01:07:14,180 --> 01:07:09,070 you know light properties with regards 1376 01:07:16,590 --> 01:07:14,190 to propulsion transference 1377 01:07:17,970 --> 01:07:16,600 it gets crazy some of the stuff that 1378 01:07:18,330 --> 01:07:17,980 I've seen some of the stuff that I've 1379 01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:18,340 heard 1380 01:07:27,530 --> 01:07:23,530 can't verify everything but I do know 1381 01:07:30,180 --> 01:07:27,540 that when we when we do see some 1382 01:07:32,550 --> 01:07:30,190 unidentified aerial phenomena that seems 1383 01:07:34,050 --> 01:07:32,560 to be in the form of light there's a 1384 01:07:37,460 --> 01:07:34,060 high possibility that that is 1385 01:07:40,590 --> 01:07:37,470 extraterrestrial or interdimensional and 1386 01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:40,600 again remember from coming from 1387 01:07:43,410 --> 01:07:42,250 four-dimensional space you can't have 1388 01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:43,420 something physical that's like a 1389 01:07:48,390 --> 01:07:45,370 metallic based UFO but you definitely 1390 01:07:51,690 --> 01:07:48,400 can't have something like a light based 1391 01:07:53,460 --> 01:07:51,700 you know UFO remember when I said how in 1392 01:07:55,770 --> 01:07:53,470 the paranormal people talk about seeing 1393 01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:55,780 full-bodied apparitions yes a lot of 1394 01:07:58,980 --> 01:07:56,890 times when they see full-body 1395 01:08:01,860 --> 01:07:58,990 apparitions that they're seeing them in 1396 01:08:04,260 --> 01:08:01,870 the form of light they actually describe 1397 01:08:05,730 --> 01:08:04,270 them it's like I saw a woman and she was 1398 01:08:08,730 --> 01:08:05,740 standing there and it was like she had 1399 01:08:10,350 --> 01:08:08,740 like this luminescence about her you 1400 01:08:14,220 --> 01:08:10,360 know it was in the pitch black it was 1401 01:08:17,099 --> 01:08:14,230 should have seen nothing and you know we 1402 01:08:19,410 --> 01:08:17,109 often ponder where does that where is 1403 01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:19,420 that full up that full-bodied apparition 1404 01:08:25,140 --> 01:08:22,770 emanating from what's the source well 1405 01:08:26,610 --> 01:08:25,150 maybe that's information being 1406 01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:26,620 transferred from the fourth dimension 1407 01:08:31,050 --> 01:08:28,570 maybe there's that maybe there's an 1408 01:08:33,180 --> 01:08:31,060 entity on the other side that once 1409 01:08:37,730 --> 01:08:33,190 existed on in our realm and they're 1410 01:08:40,530 --> 01:08:37,740 trying to tell us something maybe on a 1411 01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:40,540 on a fun on a basic fundamental level 1412 01:08:46,710 --> 01:08:42,730 they can transfer their thoughts to our 1413 01:08:50,579 --> 01:08:46,720 reality or they can transfer ideas or I 1414 01:08:53,190 --> 01:08:50,589 have no idea but information at a very 1415 01:08:56,220 --> 01:08:53,200 very basic level can make it through to 1416 01:09:02,120 --> 01:08:56,230 our side possibly let's consider that 1417 01:09:08,130 --> 01:09:05,870 exists in the four dimensional space and 1418 01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:08,140 they have sufficiently advanced 1419 01:09:14,940 --> 01:09:11,290 technology that is far beyond anything 1420 01:09:17,030 --> 01:09:14,950 that we can understand maybe they are 1421 01:09:20,579 --> 01:09:17,040 coming into our dimension 1422 01:09:23,790 --> 01:09:20,589 utilizing crafts that are comprised of 1423 01:09:28,170 --> 01:09:23,800 pure energy and maybe that energy is 1424 01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:28,180 what we comprehend it as light so when 1425 01:09:31,290 --> 01:09:30,970 we're looking up into the Stars and we 1426 01:09:33,480 --> 01:09:31,300 see 1427 01:09:38,580 --> 01:09:33,490 a crowd a spacecraft up there that 1428 01:09:42,330 --> 01:09:38,590 doesn't appear to have a physical body 1429 01:09:44,490 --> 01:09:42,340 such as like a like a plane or what we 1430 01:09:46,710 --> 01:09:44,500 think of as a traditional saucer craft 1431 01:09:47,430 --> 01:09:46,720 but instead we're seeing light patterns 1432 01:09:49,470 --> 01:09:47,440 up there 1433 01:09:54,570 --> 01:09:49,480 maybe that's what we're seeing you know 1434 01:09:57,180 --> 01:09:54,580 I I'm so happy that you are sponsoring 1435 01:09:58,710 --> 01:09:57,190 this company or this company that is 1436 01:09:59,970 --> 01:09:58,720 sponsoring you that with the 1437 01:10:02,190 --> 01:09:59,980 night-vision goggles 1438 01:10:04,410 --> 01:10:02,200 years ago good friend of mine he since 1439 01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:04,420 passed away his name was Ed Grimsley yep 1440 01:10:11,910 --> 01:10:10,210 no I'm yeah and and I and my buddy Rick 1441 01:10:17,220 --> 01:10:11,920 we went out to a baseball field out 1442 01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:17,230 there were edy lived in near Napa and we 1443 01:10:22,170 --> 01:10:20,290 were using three you know Gen 3 1444 01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:22,180 night-vision goggles this is before 1445 01:10:27,750 --> 01:10:25,570 anybody else was doing this and sure 1446 01:10:29,130 --> 01:10:27,760 enough man ed was pointing up pointing 1447 01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:29,140 out stuff to us you know we all had 1448 01:10:34,470 --> 01:10:31,330 goggles in the hugheses laser needs a 1449 01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:34,480 look over here we'd follow the laser we 1450 01:10:38,970 --> 01:10:36,370 would see some strange stuff Jimmy that 1451 01:10:40,710 --> 01:10:38,980 just made absolute zero sense you see we 1452 01:10:42,330 --> 01:10:40,720 will take our laptops with us and we 1453 01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:42,340 knew the trajectories of all the 1454 01:10:47,220 --> 01:10:45,370 satellites even spy satellites our own 1455 01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:47,230 and other countries we knew where the 1456 01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:48,970 International Space Station was going to 1457 01:10:55,620 --> 01:10:53,050 be right if the x-37b or a special or 1458 01:10:57,300 --> 01:10:55,630 anything was up there we knew where it 1459 01:10:59,850 --> 01:10:57,310 was gonna be well actually the x-37b 1460 01:11:00,960 --> 01:10:59,860 there it was unclassified missions but 1461 01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:00,970 guess what we always knew where it was 1462 01:11:08,610 --> 01:11:04,330 and everybody would post yeah you'll see 1463 01:11:12,870 --> 01:11:08,620 it at this time right but my point is is 1464 01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:12,880 that we saw strange lights up there that 1465 01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:15,370 were doing maneuvers that are impossible 1466 01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:18,370 and and they just didn't match up with 1467 01:11:23,550 --> 01:11:21,010 anything that was known to be in those 1468 01:11:26,220 --> 01:11:23,560 specific trajectories so well here's 1469 01:11:27,660 --> 01:11:26,230 what gets strange Oh everybody's 1470 01:11:31,380 --> 01:11:27,670 tweeting out they want to know if you're 1471 01:11:35,610 --> 01:11:31,390 Rick Sanchez from area 51 Rick Sanchez 1472 01:11:38,940 --> 01:11:35,620 no Anthony Sanchez is like this is 1473 01:11:41,850 --> 01:11:38,950 actually it's got to be Rick Sanchez the 1474 01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:41,860 the famous sighting that I had right the 1475 01:11:47,500 --> 01:11:44,090 green chrome balls right 1476 01:11:49,480 --> 01:11:47,510 okay all right I let the jokes ensue I 1477 01:11:53,230 --> 01:11:49,490 get it you know it's my birthday have 1478 01:11:57,660 --> 01:11:53,240 fun but what was crazy about that 1479 01:12:00,940 --> 01:11:57,670 sighting is that it appeared to me to be 1480 01:12:04,330 --> 01:12:00,950 chrome green chrome that's what I saw 1481 01:12:06,340 --> 01:12:04,340 but what was if it was some kind of 1482 01:12:08,470 --> 01:12:06,350 plasma ship or some kind of light ship 1483 01:12:12,070 --> 01:12:08,480 which again I'm okay with that something 1484 01:12:13,510 --> 01:12:12,080 strange happened as it was taking off 1485 01:12:15,430 --> 01:12:13,520 and I'm looking at it through the night 1486 01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:15,440 vision you just brought up the lasers 1487 01:12:20,890 --> 01:12:18,650 and so there were there were four or 1488 01:12:23,350 --> 01:12:20,900 five or six lasers that were zigzagging 1489 01:12:25,690 --> 01:12:23,360 across this object they everybody's 1490 01:12:27,490 --> 01:12:25,700 trying to track it and it's it's moving 1491 01:12:28,990 --> 01:12:27,500 quickly you know I don't know a thousand 1492 01:12:31,660 --> 01:12:29,000 two thousand miles an hour or whatever 1493 01:12:34,060 --> 01:12:31,670 it is as it is taking off up into space 1494 01:12:37,930 --> 01:12:34,070 and I'm watching it through the night 1495 01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:37,940 vision when the laser would cross the 1496 01:12:45,580 --> 01:12:41,930 the ship and a Lucky Strike by the way 1497 01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:45,590 okay to have it accidentally you know 1498 01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:48,130 hit the ship but when it did do it it 1499 01:12:53,650 --> 01:12:51,770 reflected and it sparkled right so I 1500 01:12:55,540 --> 01:12:53,660 would see it go across a product it 1501 01:12:58,000 --> 01:12:55,550 would do this sparkling motion and I 1502 01:12:59,200 --> 01:12:58,010 would see the laser reflected back you 1503 01:13:03,580 --> 01:12:59,210 know off of the ship 1504 01:13:06,430 --> 01:13:03,590 so therefore the chrome ball aspect of 1505 01:13:09,340 --> 01:13:06,440 this being a solid ship which was only 1506 01:13:12,790 --> 01:13:09,350 the way that I can describe it it was 1507 01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:12,800 solid to the point where the lasers were 1508 01:13:18,820 --> 01:13:16,010 reflecting off of the ship so now it 1509 01:13:20,890 --> 01:13:18,830 gets into a whole nother zone here where 1510 01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:20,900 I'm trying to understand what we are 1511 01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:24,530 seeing but it did what it did it 1512 01:13:32,290 --> 01:13:28,130 appeared to be metallic you know chrome 1513 01:13:34,210 --> 01:13:32,300 I don't know how else to to describe 1514 01:13:38,440 --> 01:13:34,220 this so that takes the whole plasma 1515 01:13:40,810 --> 01:13:38,450 light-being aspect off of the table well 1516 01:13:43,090 --> 01:13:40,820 you know you have to remember even arts 1517 01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:43,100 even in our three-dimensional space you 1518 01:13:48,130 --> 01:13:46,250 still have light as a physical property 1519 01:13:52,650 --> 01:13:48,140 you know most people don't think of 1520 01:13:55,030 --> 01:13:52,660 light as being physical but it is 1521 01:13:57,850 --> 01:13:55,040 remember we talked about light at the 1522 01:14:01,090 --> 01:13:57,860 atomic level right light you know art 1523 01:14:04,270 --> 01:14:01,100 like consists of atoms you know I 1524 01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:04,280 remember earlier in the show you had 1525 01:14:14,229 --> 01:14:09,050 said I think I lost my train of thought 1526 01:14:16,660 --> 01:14:14,239 because I was coughing yeah but but but 1527 01:14:17,830 --> 01:14:16,670 remember just just just take into 1528 01:14:19,660 --> 01:14:17,840 consideration that even in our 1529 01:14:22,300 --> 01:14:19,670 three-dimensional space you know light 1530 01:14:25,359 --> 01:14:22,310 is a physical property and there are 1531 01:14:28,359 --> 01:14:25,369 some sciences that maybe that we're not 1532 01:14:32,620 --> 01:14:28,369 familiar with because it's maybe it's 1533 01:14:33,459 --> 01:14:32,630 reverse engineered alien technology just 1534 01:14:36,100 --> 01:14:33,469 because we're having the discussion 1535 01:14:40,450 --> 01:14:36,110 about interdimensional 'ti don't do not 1536 01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:40,460 forget is that in our existence oh 1537 01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:42,170 that's what it was earlier earlier in 1538 01:14:49,419 --> 01:14:44,530 the conversation Jimmy you had said that 1539 01:14:51,010 --> 01:14:49,429 the Hubble telescope these astronomers 1540 01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:51,020 were looking at what they thought were 1541 01:14:54,580 --> 01:14:53,090 stars and it was just it was over time 1542 01:14:57,280 --> 01:14:54,590 that they realized oh my god those are 1543 01:15:01,540 --> 01:14:57,290 not stars those are other galaxies right 1544 01:15:04,649 --> 01:15:01,550 so that we now know did you are Jimmy 1545 01:15:08,649 --> 01:15:04,659 are you aware that they are now 1546 01:15:10,209 --> 01:15:08,659 theorizing based on on certain 1547 01:15:10,930 --> 01:15:10,219 mathematical formulas that this is 1548 01:15:12,790 --> 01:15:10,940 coming out of the Jet Propulsion 1549 01:15:16,180 --> 01:15:12,800 Laboratory right mm-hm 1550 01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:16,190 these guys actually think there may be 1551 01:15:23,770 --> 01:15:19,810 more planets in the universe than stars 1552 01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:23,780 yes yes yes well you know and this is I 1553 01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:25,489 don't have a problem with that 1554 01:15:34,090 --> 01:15:29,210 mm-hmm and there was of how men the 1555 01:15:37,540 --> 01:15:34,100 other day oh here in LA the local the 1556 01:15:39,250 --> 01:15:37,550 big talk radio station is KFI right am 1557 01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:39,260 640 it's where coast-to-coast broadcast 1558 01:15:45,820 --> 01:15:43,010 at night and one of the hosts there Tim 1559 01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:45,830 Conway jr. you know Tim Conway The Carol 1560 01:15:51,220 --> 01:15:49,130 Burnett Show his son Tim Conway juniors 1561 01:15:53,850 --> 01:15:51,230 got a brilliant talk show and he does 1562 01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:53,860 this thing called ding dong right it's a 1563 01:15:59,320 --> 01:15:56,690 he call it he gives you a trivia 1564 01:16:02,550 --> 01:15:59,330 question and you answer ding or dong 1565 01:16:07,070 --> 01:16:02,560 right yes or no right true or false and 1566 01:16:10,250 --> 01:16:07,080 so he has a lot of children call in 1567 01:16:12,440 --> 01:16:10,260 it's funny it's it's really good wellhe 1568 01:16:14,690 --> 01:16:12,450 it's so the dingdong question I'm 1569 01:16:17,390 --> 01:16:14,700 driving the coast by the way I'm on 1570 01:16:22,820 --> 01:16:17,400 coasts and and so I'm listening to 1571 01:16:27,650 --> 01:16:22,830 Conway and the question was Jupiter has 1572 01:16:29,030 --> 01:16:27,660 eight moons ding or dong and it's like a 1573 01:16:32,630 --> 01:16:29,040 little eight-year-old kid right he's 1574 01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:32,640 like dong and it goes exactly Jupiter 1575 01:16:39,380 --> 01:16:37,170 has 88 moons now think about this first 1576 01:16:42,290 --> 01:16:39,390 hour or whatever it was 68 Moon's 88 1577 01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:42,300 whatever it was it wasn't eight now so 1578 01:16:46,310 --> 01:16:44,130 when we are talking about that concept 1579 01:16:50,660 --> 01:16:46,320 right there about there be more planets 1580 01:16:53,860 --> 01:16:50,670 than stars of course right in our own 1581 01:16:57,440 --> 01:16:53,870 solar system we have eight or nine 1582 01:17:02,510 --> 01:16:57,450 counting Pluto or not 10 if you want to 1583 01:17:06,110 --> 01:17:02,520 throw in the biryu right right so yeah 1584 01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:06,120 we have 10 and 1 star you know it was 1585 01:17:13,210 --> 01:17:08,970 actually again it was the Jet Propulsion 1586 01:17:20,150 --> 01:17:16,820 astrophysicists who did some math that 1587 01:17:25,450 --> 01:17:20,160 actually proved the existence of 1588 01:17:27,980 --> 01:17:25,460 something a potential tenth planet or or 1589 01:17:29,150 --> 01:17:27,990 our ninth planet excuse me and this is 1590 01:17:31,250 --> 01:17:29,160 they're not talking about Nibiru or 1591 01:17:35,300 --> 01:17:31,260 Planet X they're talking about something 1592 01:17:38,930 --> 01:17:35,310 out so far yet it is technically within 1593 01:17:41,540 --> 01:17:38,940 the confines of our solar system it is 1594 01:17:42,980 --> 01:17:41,550 mathematically they know it exists 1595 01:17:45,170 --> 01:17:42,990 there's something out there and they 1596 01:17:48,980 --> 01:17:45,180 think it could be a massive planet but 1597 01:17:51,050 --> 01:17:48,990 it's it's complete utter darkness it's 1598 01:17:52,850 --> 01:17:51,060 so far away it's so far away the Sun is 1599 01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:52,860 and reflecting off of it therefore it's 1600 01:17:57,140 --> 01:17:54,330 a black perhaps it could be a binary 1601 01:17:58,700 --> 01:17:57,150 star 2 as well they think it's a planet 1602 01:18:02,480 --> 01:17:58,710 they do and the way that they were able 1603 01:18:05,450 --> 01:18:02,490 to determine that was because of the the 1604 01:18:08,930 --> 01:18:05,460 gravitational shift in I think it was 1605 01:18:10,610 --> 01:18:08,940 Pluto Pluto there is affected or 1606 01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:10,620 something to that effect he's like 1607 01:18:17,660 --> 01:18:13,890 you're talking about is his name is Mike 1608 01:18:18,830 --> 01:18:17,670 Brown and he is an astrophysicist here 1609 01:18:23,140 --> 01:18:18,840 at Caltech 1610 01:18:26,780 --> 01:18:23,150 and his math says we're talking about 1611 01:18:29,660 --> 01:18:26,790 Uranus and Saturn and Neptune that are 1612 01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:29,670 being influenced gravitationally by the 1613 01:18:35,300 --> 01:18:32,730 only thing that would that would do this 1614 01:18:37,700 --> 01:18:35,310 is another planetary body out there that 1615 01:18:40,850 --> 01:18:37,710 we can't see and the only thing that 1616 01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:40,860 makes the math work is this planetary 1617 01:18:47,450 --> 01:18:43,410 body out there now he is working on its 1618 01:18:50,540 --> 01:18:47,460 location they know it's approximate area 1619 01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:50,550 right because of the math and where it 1620 01:18:57,160 --> 01:18:53,130 should be later and where it has been in 1621 01:18:59,360 --> 01:18:57,170 the past in this in this gravitational 1622 01:19:01,450 --> 01:18:59,370 manipulation that's been going on in our 1623 01:19:03,620 --> 01:19:01,460 own solar system so yeah yeah absolutely 1624 01:19:06,260 --> 01:19:03,630 and they said you're right they are from 1625 01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:06,270 it they were from Caltech and they said 1626 01:19:11,690 --> 01:19:07,890 it would be ten times the mass of the 1627 01:19:13,610 --> 01:19:11,700 mass of Earth yes yeah it's the only 1628 01:19:16,070 --> 01:19:13,620 thing that makes about normal orbit like 1629 01:19:19,820 --> 01:19:16,080 like what we have it would be something 1630 01:19:21,740 --> 01:19:19,830 a little bit more elongated eccentric it 1631 01:19:25,990 --> 01:19:21,750 would be something different yes and off 1632 01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:26,000 of the elliptical plane and so it 1633 01:19:32,270 --> 01:19:29,010 answers a lot of questions but the other 1634 01:19:37,340 --> 01:19:32,280 part for me that that gets a little bit 1635 01:19:39,050 --> 01:19:37,350 mysterious is Silicon Valley the talk of 1636 01:19:41,030 --> 01:19:39,060 and I've done this enough on the show 1637 01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:41,040 I'm not going to go that in depth to it 1638 01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:43,770 with it right now but quantum computing 1639 01:19:50,780 --> 01:19:48,570 qubits and what that now suggests for 1640 01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:50,790 the multi worlds theory and parallel 1641 01:19:57,130 --> 01:19:53,970 worlds because of Silicon Valley and 1642 01:20:02,440 --> 01:19:57,140 those rich dudes up there talking about 1643 01:20:05,150 --> 01:20:02,450 us living in a binary artificial reality 1644 01:20:07,940 --> 01:20:05,160 that this is now a real possibility 1645 01:20:10,940 --> 01:20:07,950 there they are saying this because they 1646 01:20:12,950 --> 01:20:10,950 know that quantum computing works that 1647 01:20:16,070 --> 01:20:12,960 qubits work and the only way that a 1648 01:20:20,060 --> 01:20:16,080 qubit works is because of the reaction 1649 01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:20,070 of another qubit another atom and it's 1650 01:20:26,690 --> 01:20:22,770 the end of the spectrum right right in 1651 01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:26,700 in in infini just going out in the 1652 01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:29,010 infinite parallel worlds to our left and 1653 01:20:34,850 --> 01:20:32,370 to our right so if you had if you had 1654 01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:34,860 to atoms let's jump down to the atomic 1655 01:20:41,380 --> 01:20:39,210 level right and you had one and you and 1656 01:20:46,070 --> 01:20:41,390 these were paired atoms and you 1657 01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:46,080 separated them what to the furthest end 1658 01:20:49,550 --> 01:20:46,890 of the universe 1659 01:20:51,350 --> 01:20:49,560 they there with the theorizing it's not 1660 01:20:53,810 --> 01:20:51,360 even theory they pretty much believed 1661 01:20:56,120 --> 01:20:53,820 that I proved it yeah yeah what'd you do 1662 01:20:59,210 --> 01:20:56,130 to one affects the other no matter the 1663 01:21:00,050 --> 01:20:59,220 distance none and that that's it that's 1664 01:21:03,830 --> 01:21:00,060 incredible 1665 01:21:06,650 --> 01:21:03,840 and so if parallel worlds do exist and 1666 01:21:08,660 --> 01:21:06,660 they do they have to the multi worlds 1667 01:21:10,910 --> 01:21:08,670 theory that convoluted the multiverse 1668 01:21:12,350 --> 01:21:10,920 theory yeah absolutely and so when you 1669 01:21:14,650 --> 01:21:12,360 get into quantum mechanics and quantum 1670 01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:14,660 theory in the multi world theory of 1671 01:21:21,140 --> 01:21:17,730 which is the same as a parallel world 1672 01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:21,150 multiple that all of it this comes into 1673 01:21:30,110 --> 01:21:25,530 play then when somebody says that 1674 01:21:34,910 --> 01:21:30,120 they've seen a UFO right that just 1675 01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:34,920 appear right just appear and then just 1676 01:21:41,980 --> 01:21:38,610 disappear it's not that it's Dima luckly 1677 01:21:46,490 --> 01:21:41,990 arising right it's not that it's 1678 01:21:50,480 --> 01:21:46,500 disappearing yeah it is possibly just 1679 01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:50,490 zipping in and out of our world and 1680 01:21:56,510 --> 01:21:53,370 going back to where it came from is that 1681 01:22:00,220 --> 01:21:56,520 the contact we are making it could be 1682 01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:00,230 remember the movie The Matrix how the 1683 01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:02,970 artificial intelligence the this this 1684 01:22:08,650 --> 01:22:05,610 whole artificial worlds of robots 1685 01:22:10,610 --> 01:22:08,660 essentially who are utilizing humans as 1686 01:22:14,410 --> 01:22:10,620 batteries because of their electrical 1687 01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:14,420 signatures right remember that yep even 1688 01:22:19,340 --> 01:22:16,770 in the fourth dimension even in fourth 1689 01:22:23,540 --> 01:22:19,350 dimensional space you have atoms you 1690 01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:23,550 have an atomic you have an atomic basis 1691 01:22:27,700 --> 01:22:26,010 for everything it doesn't matter you can 1692 01:22:33,470 --> 01:22:27,710 go all the way to the fifth dimension 1693 01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:33,480 everything has an atomic basis so now 1694 01:22:39,410 --> 01:22:37,650 that we have these baselines everything 1695 01:22:43,190 --> 01:22:39,420 that exists in the universe every single 1696 01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:43,200 one of us carries atoms that were 1697 01:22:47,620 --> 01:22:45,530 comprised from the 1698 01:22:49,090 --> 01:22:47,630 training of the singularity I remember 1699 01:22:50,920 --> 01:22:49,100 at the beginning you were talking about 1700 01:22:53,140 --> 01:22:50,930 the expansion of space and ultimately 1701 01:22:54,820 --> 01:22:53,150 it's gonna collapse in on itself it'll 1702 01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:54,830 return to the state of a singularity and 1703 01:22:57,190 --> 01:22:56,210 then it's gonna burst into another Big 1704 01:23:00,460 --> 01:22:57,200 Bang yep 1705 01:23:05,350 --> 01:23:00,470 all those atoms all the atoms that are 1706 01:23:07,270 --> 01:23:05,360 existence and now were in existence at 1707 01:23:09,070 --> 01:23:07,280 the time of the Big Bang Theory so if 1708 01:23:14,380 --> 01:23:09,080 we're talking about this these quantum 1709 01:23:16,690 --> 01:23:14,390 realities and the ability for one atom 1710 01:23:19,780 --> 01:23:16,700 to be affected thus affecting it's a 1711 01:23:21,220 --> 01:23:19,790 pairing atom who's to say that you know 1712 01:23:24,070 --> 01:23:21,230 atomic properties in the fourth 1713 01:23:25,810 --> 01:23:24,080 dimension don't have an effect on in 1714 01:23:29,100 --> 01:23:25,820 three-dimensional space and vice versa 1715 01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:29,110 so we could be seeing things that we are 1716 01:23:38,590 --> 01:23:32,410 unintentionally affecting and vice versa 1717 01:23:41,500 --> 01:23:38,600 so is it possible that that would answer 1718 01:23:43,660 --> 01:23:41,510 a lot of questions where in that 1719 01:23:47,770 --> 01:23:43,670 parallel world to our left or to our 1720 01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:47,780 right there are physical in a different 1721 01:23:52,480 --> 01:23:49,370 it's a different world it's a different 1722 01:23:55,420 --> 01:23:52,490 world than our own that there are flying 1723 01:23:59,140 --> 01:23:55,430 saucers there are black triangles there 1724 01:24:02,080 --> 01:23:59,150 are little greys there are whatever in 1725 01:24:04,510 --> 01:24:02,090 this other world in ours 1726 01:24:06,610 --> 01:24:04,520 they may not be here all the time it's 1727 01:24:11,020 --> 01:24:06,620 not part of our world when they are 1728 01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:11,030 literally zipping in to our frequency 1729 01:24:16,180 --> 01:24:13,370 where we are physically able to see them 1730 01:24:17,980 --> 01:24:16,190 they are physically here but then they 1731 01:24:19,810 --> 01:24:17,990 go back to where they came from and in 1732 01:24:22,270 --> 01:24:19,820 that other world if we were able to step 1733 01:24:24,550 --> 01:24:22,280 into it and look up into the skies we 1734 01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:24,560 may see flying cars and flying saucers 1735 01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:26,930 and black triangles as part of that 1736 01:24:34,180 --> 01:24:31,250 reality and that existence right it's 1737 01:24:35,590 --> 01:24:34,190 possible I do but remember those Jimmy 1738 01:24:37,030 --> 01:24:35,600 it's like what you said earlier when 1739 01:24:39,310 --> 01:24:37,040 they started to make these discoveries 1740 01:24:40,810 --> 01:24:39,320 that these stars were in fact galaxies 1741 01:24:41,980 --> 01:24:40,820 and then now they're saying that there 1742 01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:41,990 could be more planets than there are 1743 01:24:48,550 --> 01:24:45,290 stars that opens up a whole new chapter 1744 01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:48,560 in this discussion this UFO discussion 1745 01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:51,650 because you are now I mean and that 1746 01:24:56,800 --> 01:24:54,530 takes Drake's equation and proves how 1747 01:24:57,930 --> 01:24:56,810 antiquated it is and then shows that it 1748 01:25:01,820 --> 01:24:57,940 needs to be rewritten 1749 01:25:04,380 --> 01:25:01,830 and rethought from the ground up because 1750 01:25:06,570 --> 01:25:04,390 there's a lot more out there than we 1751 01:25:10,170 --> 01:25:06,580 could even conceive of and we didn't 1752 01:25:12,450 --> 01:25:10,180 conceive so I do believe that when 1753 01:25:14,430 --> 01:25:12,460 people say they're seeing grays they're 1754 01:25:16,260 --> 01:25:14,440 seeing reptilians they are seeing tall 1755 01:25:19,110 --> 01:25:16,270 whites they are seeing Nordics they are 1756 01:25:23,060 --> 01:25:19,120 seeing whatever the blue avians mantas 1757 01:25:26,729 --> 01:25:23,070 being mantis exactly I mean those things 1758 01:25:30,150 --> 01:25:26,739 III believe that these entities do exist 1759 01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:30,160 I do believe that they are coming to us 1760 01:25:37,050 --> 01:25:32,650 you know and what form I don't know but 1761 01:25:39,890 --> 01:25:37,060 I mean definitely in in anything that we 1762 01:25:43,340 --> 01:25:39,900 see as physical right like a gray alien 1763 01:25:46,110 --> 01:25:43,350 I don't want to jump into the whole 1764 01:25:47,550 --> 01:25:46,120 anunnaki discussion via Gigi or the 1765 01:25:49,650 --> 01:25:47,560 Dulce base with the gray aliens in 1766 01:25:53,700 --> 01:25:49,660 existence there or the ones in Alice 1767 01:25:55,890 --> 01:25:53,710 Springs or whatever but these are 1768 01:25:58,470 --> 01:25:55,900 creatures that are based in a three 1769 01:26:00,810 --> 01:25:58,480 dimensional continuum that we know the 1770 01:26:01,790 --> 01:26:00,820 same that we existed so they're physical 1771 01:26:04,979 --> 01:26:01,800 just like us 1772 01:26:07,290 --> 01:26:04,989 but men Jimmy four-dimensional space 1773 01:26:09,810 --> 01:26:07,300 there has to be something to it there 1774 01:26:13,290 --> 01:26:09,820 has to be something that we can't 1775 01:26:15,390 --> 01:26:13,300 comprehend that could possibly be you 1776 01:26:19,530 --> 01:26:15,400 know be making could possibly make 1777 01:26:24,270 --> 01:26:19,540 communication with us Rita just uh Texas 1778 01:26:26,310 --> 01:26:24,280 she said f is ferocious with the f is 1779 01:26:30,780 --> 01:26:26,320 for C this we gotta take a break right 1780 01:26:33,180 --> 01:26:30,790 here but the concept of the bar in Star 1781 01:26:35,130 --> 01:26:33,190 Wars right with the multitudes of 1782 01:26:36,990 --> 01:26:35,140 different species all getting along and 1783 01:26:38,580 --> 01:26:37,000 everybody just looked it a little bit 1784 01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:38,590 different a more freakier than the guy 1785 01:26:45,750 --> 01:26:42,250 next that is what we are that has to be 1786 01:26:49,439 --> 01:26:45,760 the universe right that just has to be 1787 01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:49,449 the way that it is so I cannot when 1788 01:26:56,430 --> 01:26:53,650 somebody is comfortable with the greys 1789 01:26:59,990 --> 01:26:56,440 being here okay all right but that's 1790 01:27:03,660 --> 01:27:00,000 that cannot be all that there is it's 1791 01:27:05,790 --> 01:27:03,670 impossible it's got to be infinite the 1792 01:27:07,410 --> 01:27:05,800 amount and difference of the species 1793 01:27:09,419 --> 01:27:07,420 that are out there that are visiting 1794 01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:09,429 earth have in the past and are visiting 1795 01:27:13,350 --> 01:27:10,810 now today 1796 01:27:15,480 --> 01:27:13,360 are completely different different 1797 01:27:17,250 --> 01:27:15,490 planets different solar systems maybe 1798 01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:17,260 and Jimmy I know we got to go to a break 1799 01:27:22,770 --> 01:27:20,890 but really quickly fast the 500-meter 1800 01:27:24,660 --> 01:27:22,780 apertures for your whole telescope that 1801 01:27:26,370 --> 01:27:24,670 they built in China which is massive by 1802 01:27:29,730 --> 01:27:26,380 comparison to Arecibo in Puerto Rico 1803 01:27:32,490 --> 01:27:29,740 right only Chinese scientists get to use 1804 01:27:34,260 --> 01:27:32,500 that thing they built it in a matter of 1805 01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:34,270 two years they just placed an entire 1806 01:27:40,380 --> 01:27:38,290 town of hundreds of people what the hell 1807 01:27:43,470 --> 01:27:40,390 did they build that thing for it's an 1808 01:27:45,150 --> 01:27:43,480 antenna and I in I I have sources that 1809 01:27:46,890 --> 01:27:45,160 have told me they are using it for the 1810 01:27:49,590 --> 01:27:46,900 purposes of communication two-way 1811 01:27:52,020 --> 01:27:49,600 communication I I believe that that 1812 01:27:54,270 --> 01:27:52,030 communication goes on today and they are 1813 01:27:59,310 --> 01:27:54,280 trying their best and I'm talking about 1814 01:28:01,260 --> 01:27:59,320 the media too to let us know that these 1815 01:28:03,390 --> 01:28:01,270 fast radio bursts and this communication 1816 01:28:06,030 --> 01:28:03,400 that is that is going at them reaching 1817 01:28:08,580 --> 01:28:06,040 out to us we know what's going on and 1818 01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:08,590 I'm telling you the next announcement 1819 01:28:12,990 --> 01:28:11,050 that's gonna happen Anthony is gonna be 1820 01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:13,000 just that it's gonna be we have been 1821 01:28:16,950 --> 01:28:14,890 communicating for a long time this is 1822 01:28:18,930 --> 01:28:16,960 what's going on that's that's what's 1823 01:28:20,940 --> 01:28:18,940 next you know this is part of the drip 1824 01:28:25,140 --> 01:28:20,950 drip drip our guest tonight 1825 01:28:27,390 --> 01:28:25,150 Anthony ferocious Sanchez we'll be right 1826 01:28:35,400 --> 01:28:27,400 back stay with us everybody 1827 01:28:35,410 --> 01:28:45,200 [Music] 1828 01:28:52,440 --> 01:28:48,410 way out here we listen to Jimmy Church 1829 01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:52,450 you're listening to fade to black always 1830 01:28:57,570 --> 01:28:54,730 on the edge of the hottest alternative 1831 01:29:16,710 --> 01:28:57,580 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01:33:13,320 --> 01:33:10,070 Jimmy church radio calm somebody just 1902 01:33:16,180 --> 01:33:13,330 tweeted out it's Anthony fader mod 1903 01:33:19,750 --> 01:33:16,190 Sanchez everybody's trying to figure it 1904 01:33:21,580 --> 01:33:19,760 out Anthony I can't come up with 1905 01:33:23,500 --> 01:33:21,590 anything clever yeah there you go 1906 01:33:28,780 --> 01:33:23,510 Anthony fat I'll go with fade or not 1907 01:33:31,350 --> 01:33:28,790 that's cool yeah me totally now I've got 1908 01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:31,360 a bunch of questions here one of them 1909 01:33:38,950 --> 01:33:35,570 everybody will dabble here when this 1910 01:33:40,899 --> 01:33:38,960 conversation arises and Jordan says what 1911 01:33:44,820 --> 01:33:40,909 does Anthony think about psychedelics 1912 01:33:57,370 --> 01:33:51,550 you know I remember years ago reading up 1913 01:34:02,229 --> 01:33:57,380 on Terence Mckenna yep and that guy was 1914 01:34:05,229 --> 01:34:02,239 just brilliant and I truly believed in 1915 01:34:07,510 --> 01:34:05,239 some of the if not all of the things 1916 01:34:12,959 --> 01:34:07,520 that he was professing which essentially 1917 01:34:18,100 --> 01:34:12,969 when you boil it down is that our mind 1918 01:34:22,120 --> 01:34:18,110 can't be affected to the point that we 1919 01:34:23,680 --> 01:34:22,130 can peer into another reality whether 1920 01:34:28,720 --> 01:34:23,690 it's the fourth dimension I don't know 1921 01:34:32,680 --> 01:34:28,730 but I do believe that psychedelics hold 1922 01:34:36,419 --> 01:34:32,690 the key to peering into other realms and 1923 01:34:38,979 --> 01:34:36,429 if you look at so many of the indigenous 1924 01:34:41,729 --> 01:34:38,989 groups across the planet that still 1925 01:34:44,110 --> 01:34:41,739 utilize psychedelics as part of their 1926 01:34:47,500 --> 01:34:44,120 religions or you know like the shaman's 1927 01:34:51,370 --> 01:34:47,510 and in Mexico you know you have the 1928 01:34:54,430 --> 01:34:51,380 coton dedos who utilize like what's the 1929 01:34:56,919 --> 01:34:54,440 in I'm gonna loss for words but 1930 01:35:01,870 --> 01:34:56,929 ayahuasca they have ayahuasca and they 1931 01:35:03,879 --> 01:35:01,880 have peyote and they're not abused in 1932 01:35:05,890 --> 01:35:03,889 the sense of you know how we would 1933 01:35:09,760 --> 01:35:05,900 typically think of a person of beating 1934 01:35:12,490 --> 01:35:09,770 drugs to you know achieve a high they're 1935 01:35:13,890 --> 01:35:12,500 used for the purposes of seeking you 1936 01:35:18,310 --> 01:35:13,900 know 1937 01:35:21,070 --> 01:35:18,320 these vision quests that's what the term 1938 01:35:23,800 --> 01:35:21,080 Vision Quest comes from I do think that 1939 01:35:25,660 --> 01:35:23,810 there is a potential for psychedelics to 1940 01:35:27,850 --> 01:35:25,670 open up the mind I mean they're always 1941 01:35:32,919 --> 01:35:27,860 talking about the pineal gland you know 1942 01:35:37,030 --> 01:35:32,929 being our third eye and that it gets 1943 01:35:38,410 --> 01:35:37,040 heavily affected and I don't know I 1944 01:35:42,760 --> 01:35:38,420 don't know the science behind it Jimmy 1945 01:35:43,810 --> 01:35:42,770 but yeah there's something to it because 1946 01:35:47,700 --> 01:35:43,820 there's so many people that have 1947 01:35:51,060 --> 01:35:47,710 professed the the benefits in the 1948 01:35:53,470 --> 01:35:51,070 effects of psychedelics on being able to 1949 01:35:56,410 --> 01:35:53,480 achieve these deeper levels of thought 1950 01:35:59,740 --> 01:35:56,420 yeah they're the the experiences that 1951 01:36:03,370 --> 01:35:59,750 people have on Iowa on ayahuasca and DMT 1952 01:36:05,380 --> 01:36:03,380 are nearly identical that's the that's 1953 01:36:08,500 --> 01:36:05,390 the trippy thing that they don't have to 1954 01:36:11,320 --> 01:36:08,510 know each other right they write about 1955 01:36:12,280 --> 01:36:11,330 their experiences and and and what they 1956 01:36:13,870 --> 01:36:12,290 see and what they do and who they 1957 01:36:16,750 --> 01:36:13,880 communicate with and what's going down 1958 01:36:20,709 --> 01:36:16,760 and the intention of it all and they are 1959 01:36:23,770 --> 01:36:20,719 nearly identical not acid not LSD that's 1960 01:36:24,520 --> 01:36:23,780 you're just tripping right that that's a 1961 01:36:26,470 --> 01:36:24,530 totally they're everything 1962 01:36:28,540 --> 01:36:26,480 nobody's gonna have the same experience 1963 01:36:31,390 --> 01:36:28,550 but when it comes to DMT and ayahuasca 1964 01:36:34,660 --> 01:36:31,400 and what that where they are going to 1965 01:36:36,430 --> 01:36:34,670 that is truly a parallel world another 1966 01:36:38,410 --> 01:36:36,440 dimension they're experiencing the same 1967 01:36:40,750 --> 01:36:38,420 thing and with the communications it's 1968 01:36:42,490 --> 01:36:40,760 nearly identical every time that I find 1969 01:36:44,620 --> 01:36:42,500 interesting but and you know and they 1970 01:36:46,709 --> 01:36:44,630 talk about going into this dream state 1971 01:36:49,870 --> 01:36:46,719 you know what they're doing when they do 1972 01:36:53,080 --> 01:36:49,880 ayahuasca and peyote it's so funny that 1973 01:36:55,419 --> 01:36:53,090 they would say that because I think that 1974 01:36:59,080 --> 01:36:55,429 our body on some physical level can 1975 01:37:01,689 --> 01:36:59,090 manifest its you know without without 1976 01:37:03,729 --> 01:37:01,699 the the use of ayahuasca or peyote I 1977 01:37:05,979 --> 01:37:03,739 think did you know you know how they say 1978 01:37:08,320 --> 01:37:05,989 when you exercise you generate all these 1979 01:37:10,360 --> 01:37:08,330 endorphins and you can you can stave off 1980 01:37:12,250 --> 01:37:10,370 like depression or you know what I'm 1981 01:37:14,649 --> 01:37:12,260 talking about yep yep yep there have 1982 01:37:16,600 --> 01:37:14,659 been times in the past where I would 1983 01:37:18,160 --> 01:37:16,610 work out like mad I mean there I'm 1984 01:37:20,680 --> 01:37:18,170 really happy now but way back you know 1985 01:37:22,300 --> 01:37:20,690 ten years ago I wasn't and I was and I 1986 01:37:25,030 --> 01:37:22,310 used to lift weights I used to do you 1987 01:37:26,320 --> 01:37:25,040 know yoga in the morning weights in the 1988 01:37:26,630 --> 01:37:26,330 afternoon weights in the evening I would 1989 01:37:29,420 --> 01:37:26,640 just 1990 01:37:31,820 --> 01:37:29,430 I was a second I work out a lot during 1991 01:37:33,560 --> 01:37:31,830 those times I swear to you Jimmy I would 1992 01:37:35,150 --> 01:37:33,570 have the freakiest dreams and me being a 1993 01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:35,160 software developer I would struggle 1994 01:37:39,530 --> 01:37:36,570 during the day with problems right 1995 01:37:41,540 --> 01:37:39,540 because you have all these distractions 1996 01:37:42,830 --> 01:37:41,550 what you know when we're awake and we're 1997 01:37:44,300 --> 01:37:42,840 at work right like when I used to work 1998 01:37:46,720 --> 01:37:44,310 at Intel Corporation I'd be bombarded 1999 01:37:50,030 --> 01:37:46,730 with stuff all the time but I would have 2000 01:37:52,160 --> 01:37:50,040 problems that I needed to focus on so 2001 01:37:53,810 --> 01:37:52,170 after I would spend an entire day at 2002 01:37:57,290 --> 01:37:53,820 work and then you know three times 2003 01:37:58,760 --> 01:37:57,300 working out like one time you know and 2004 01:38:00,740 --> 01:37:58,770 usually like before I would go to bed I 2005 01:38:04,280 --> 01:38:00,750 would lift weights or whatever right yes 2006 01:38:07,250 --> 01:38:04,290 during my sleep I would have such 2007 01:38:09,140 --> 01:38:07,260 clarity and I would have dreams and I 2008 01:38:11,510 --> 01:38:09,150 would problem-solve in my dreams and it 2009 01:38:12,710 --> 01:38:11,520 wasn't stressful it was like most people 2010 01:38:15,020 --> 01:38:12,720 like they don't want to dream of their 2011 01:38:17,150 --> 01:38:15,030 work obviously but to me you know I've 2012 01:38:18,590 --> 01:38:17,160 always sought my software's like puzzle 2013 01:38:20,750 --> 01:38:18,600 solving and I like doing puzzles and 2014 01:38:25,700 --> 01:38:20,760 those types of things right 2015 01:38:29,960 --> 01:38:25,710 so in the dream state it was almost like 2016 01:38:31,580 --> 01:38:29,970 it was um it was like I was physical I 2017 01:38:34,280 --> 01:38:31,590 could I could literally get physical 2018 01:38:37,580 --> 01:38:34,290 within my dreams and pull from my brain 2019 01:38:39,950 --> 01:38:37,590 and manage to just achieve super clarity 2020 01:38:42,230 --> 01:38:39,960 and literally wake up the next morning 2021 01:38:44,000 --> 01:38:42,240 having solved the problem that was you 2022 01:38:46,700 --> 01:38:44,010 know that me and my entire team were 2023 01:38:48,440 --> 01:38:46,710 struggling with that work or whatever so 2024 01:38:51,080 --> 01:38:48,450 I do think that when you go into the 2025 01:38:53,150 --> 01:38:51,090 dream state and utilize it something 2026 01:38:56,090 --> 01:38:53,160 like ayahuasca maybe you can even go 2027 01:39:00,110 --> 01:38:56,100 into a deeper reality that we just don't 2028 01:39:02,990 --> 01:39:00,120 understand yeah yeah I one day I you 2029 01:39:04,850 --> 01:39:03,000 know I'll go on the record one day I'll 2030 01:39:07,100 --> 01:39:04,860 check it out I have to I don't know if 2031 01:39:08,960 --> 01:39:07,110 it'll be DMT or ayahuasca I think 2032 01:39:10,820 --> 01:39:08,970 Hiawatha's you know that's a whole 2033 01:39:14,390 --> 01:39:10,830 that's a you know that's that's a 2034 01:39:16,850 --> 01:39:14,400 commitment but but but DMT it's ten 2035 01:39:19,220 --> 01:39:16,860 minutes so at least you can dip your toe 2036 01:39:22,070 --> 01:39:19,230 in the water right I'm gonna get back 2037 01:39:25,780 --> 01:39:22,080 out pretty quick get back to normal but 2038 01:39:32,090 --> 01:39:25,790 yeah I do want to check it out this is 2039 01:39:35,420 --> 01:39:32,100 you had your sighting at when you were 2040 01:39:37,420 --> 01:39:35,430 younger next to the Air Force Base right 2041 01:39:39,690 --> 01:39:37,430 there the Fed the Army Airfield 2042 01:39:41,850 --> 01:39:39,700 so that 2043 01:39:44,940 --> 01:39:41,860 was a physical sighting that was a 2044 01:39:46,920 --> 01:39:44,950 physical ship what do you write in words 2045 01:39:49,350 --> 01:39:46,930 that you're talking about 1981 Moffett 2046 01:39:50,880 --> 01:39:49,360 Field Op from a San Francisco Giants 2047 01:39:53,370 --> 01:39:50,890 game yeah my dad my uncle my little 2048 01:39:56,280 --> 01:39:53,380 brother that's right and we were on I 2049 01:39:58,230 --> 01:39:56,290 think it was 280 we were coming down or 2050 01:39:59,910 --> 01:39:58,240 no whatever it is at parallels Moffett 2051 01:40:02,730 --> 01:39:59,920 Field I hadn't been to the Bay Area in 2052 01:40:05,580 --> 01:40:02,740 year so I can't I don't remember but we 2053 01:40:08,250 --> 01:40:05,590 saw a physical craft hovering outside 2054 01:40:10,710 --> 01:40:08,260 the hangar the the doors of hangar 1 2055 01:40:14,000 --> 01:40:10,720 this thing was so wide it was wider than 2056 01:40:18,290 --> 01:40:14,010 the hangar now that was a physical craft 2057 01:40:21,900 --> 01:40:18,300 that was something obviously from our 2058 01:40:26,640 --> 01:40:21,910 you know three spatial dimension reality 2059 01:40:28,500 --> 01:40:26,650 right our 3d reality but it what it did 2060 01:40:30,840 --> 01:40:28,510 do jimmy was it disappeared within an 2061 01:40:34,530 --> 01:40:30,850 instant and it left what appeared to be 2062 01:40:38,250 --> 01:40:34,540 a vapor in the shape of what had been 2063 01:40:42,030 --> 01:40:38,260 there just previous so what that was 2064 01:40:45,210 --> 01:40:42,040 what do you think and I don't have I 2065 01:40:47,760 --> 01:40:45,220 don't have any issues with that I I 2066 01:40:51,740 --> 01:40:47,770 really don't you know what do you think 2067 01:40:55,410 --> 01:40:51,750 is going on because we were just up at 2068 01:40:57,960 --> 01:40:55,420 james gilliland z setting and you know 2069 01:41:02,130 --> 01:40:57,970 lots of lights and things and it's just 2070 01:41:05,490 --> 01:41:02,140 an extraordinary four-day experience up 2071 01:41:08,910 --> 01:41:05,500 there but one of these things that we 2072 01:41:11,700 --> 01:41:08,920 saw it was during this like a one-hour 2073 01:41:14,070 --> 01:41:11,710 period where things just really got out 2074 01:41:16,050 --> 01:41:14,080 of control there was lots of stuff going 2075 01:41:20,430 --> 01:41:16,060 on in the skies and it was just 2076 01:41:22,080 --> 01:41:20,440 tremendous but all of the sudden from 2077 01:41:23,070 --> 01:41:22,090 behind us because the mountain is in 2078 01:41:26,070 --> 01:41:23,080 front of us you know you're always 2079 01:41:31,770 --> 01:41:26,080 facing the mountain but behind us I 2080 01:41:35,220 --> 01:41:31,780 would say somewhere between maybe 3,000 2081 01:41:37,260 --> 01:41:35,230 4,000 feet not not that high you know 2082 01:41:39,630 --> 01:41:37,270 not the satellite you know the stuff 2083 01:41:42,810 --> 01:41:39,640 that we're seeing going up but low and 2084 01:41:47,160 --> 01:41:42,820 it's flying over us and you could see a 2085 01:41:51,480 --> 01:41:47,170 shape this was man I'm just gonna say it 2086 01:41:53,570 --> 01:41:51,490 was like a flying saucer glowing but it 2087 01:41:56,480 --> 01:41:53,580 looked a little bit metallic and it was 2088 01:41:59,000 --> 01:41:56,490 like blue and then it went a little as 2089 01:42:01,910 --> 01:41:59,010 it went past as it was pink but anyway 2090 01:42:05,300 --> 01:42:01,920 it's a disc and it's it's flying over us 2091 01:42:06,890 --> 01:42:05,310 pretty good-sized and as everybody's you 2092 01:42:08,810 --> 01:42:06,900 know whooping and hollering and we're 2093 01:42:10,820 --> 01:42:08,820 looking at it right as it gets right 2094 01:42:14,060 --> 01:42:10,830 over us and again for anybody listening 2095 01:42:16,550 --> 01:42:14,070 to me right now that is doubting or is 2096 01:42:17,570 --> 01:42:16,560 questioning my sanity or anything else 2097 01:42:21,800 --> 01:42:17,580 there was a hundred people there 2098 01:42:25,760 --> 01:42:21,810 witnessing this and it was definitely 2099 01:42:28,010 --> 01:42:25,770 low and it had shake anyway right as it 2100 01:42:34,130 --> 01:42:28,020 got over us at twelve o'clock it flashed 2101 01:42:36,530 --> 01:42:34,140 us like a like a camera flash and lit up 2102 01:42:40,160 --> 01:42:36,540 everything you know I'd be just lit up 2103 01:42:42,290 --> 01:42:40,170 like holy crap so as it went past us and 2104 01:42:44,240 --> 01:42:42,300 we're all looking at it it kind of you 2105 01:42:47,030 --> 01:42:44,250 know it was like sky blue and then went 2106 01:42:50,360 --> 01:42:47,040 to a little pink and it was a flat disc 2107 01:42:53,080 --> 01:42:50,370 and then it just just just disappeared 2108 01:42:56,120 --> 01:42:53,090 over those is the compute experience 2109 01:42:59,000 --> 01:42:56,130 that was Steven Spielberg stuff man that 2110 01:43:02,270 --> 01:42:59,010 was that was a Devil's Tower at the end 2111 01:43:04,160 --> 01:43:02,280 of Close Encounters it was crazy and and 2112 01:43:06,950 --> 01:43:04,170 I don't want to sound like the crazy guy 2113 01:43:10,550 --> 01:43:06,960 I'm really glad that we had witnesses 2114 01:43:13,130 --> 01:43:10,560 and and everybody got to experience that 2115 01:43:15,560 --> 01:43:13,140 but now we're dealing with something 2116 01:43:17,210 --> 01:43:15,570 that is physical now we're back to the 2117 01:43:20,960 --> 01:43:17,220 physical side of things 2118 01:43:22,900 --> 01:43:20,970 III don't know it's uh it was wonderful 2119 01:43:26,300 --> 01:43:22,910 to experience but I have a hard time 2120 01:43:28,580 --> 01:43:26,310 trying to describe it to people and you 2121 01:43:31,910 --> 01:43:28,590 know everybody wants to know well was it 2122 01:43:34,400 --> 01:43:31,920 us or was it you know them the question 2123 01:43:36,980 --> 01:43:34,410 I always have for everybody I don't know 2124 01:43:40,210 --> 01:43:36,990 what's going on with this is it possible 2125 01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:40,220 again that this is just a parallel world 2126 01:43:45,230 --> 01:43:42,650 situation that this wasn't necessarily 2127 01:43:47,930 --> 01:43:45,240 something flying from another universe 2128 01:43:50,470 --> 01:43:47,940 and arriving here on our timeline in our 2129 01:43:53,510 --> 01:43:50,480 world but it could be something 2130 01:43:54,020 --> 01:43:53,520 interdimensional or from from a parallel 2131 01:43:55,700 --> 01:43:54,030 world 2132 01:43:58,670 --> 01:43:55,710 and then I do think that there are 2133 01:44:02,330 --> 01:43:58,680 locations that are very special right 2134 01:44:04,700 --> 01:44:02,340 you have Sedona you have you setting 2135 01:44:06,680 --> 01:44:04,710 right with James right and then you and 2136 01:44:07,339 --> 01:44:06,690 you have places that you know we're 2137 01:44:09,229 --> 01:44:07,349 never through 2138 01:44:11,719 --> 01:44:09,239 experience like skinwalker ranch right I 2139 01:44:13,549 --> 01:44:11,729 was talking with my sons just yesterday 2140 01:44:14,929 --> 01:44:13,559 we were talking they were asking me or 2141 01:44:17,209 --> 01:44:14,939 my son was saying dad you know there's 2142 01:44:19,909 --> 01:44:17,219 this guy you know he started out you 2143 01:44:21,259 --> 01:44:19,919 know in Vegas with these hotels or 2144 01:44:21,859 --> 01:44:21,269 something actually started out with 2145 01:44:23,299 --> 01:44:21,869 laundromats 2146 01:44:25,279 --> 01:44:23,309 his name is Richard Bigelow Bigelow 2147 01:44:29,299 --> 01:44:25,289 Aerospace and yeah myself was like just 2148 01:44:33,529 --> 01:44:31,849 I said you know he bought skinwalker 2149 01:44:35,299 --> 01:44:33,539 ranch and why did you buy skinwalker 2150 01:44:37,159 --> 01:44:35,309 ranch because something was happening 2151 01:44:39,229 --> 01:44:37,169 there I mean you know the whole George 2152 01:44:40,339 --> 01:44:39,239 Knapp the story you know everything that 2153 01:44:43,969 --> 01:44:40,349 went on there with the people that 2154 01:44:46,879 --> 01:44:43,979 previously owned the the land it you 2155 01:44:48,469 --> 01:44:46,889 know dating back to the the the Native 2156 01:44:50,869 --> 01:44:48,479 Americans who had their stories of the 2157 01:44:57,080 --> 01:44:50,879 skinwalkers and stuff there are areas 2158 01:45:00,109 --> 01:44:57,090 that for some reason are strange and 2159 01:45:01,969 --> 01:45:00,119 they have these properties that you know 2160 01:45:03,589 --> 01:45:01,979 lead people to believe that there are 2161 01:45:05,989 --> 01:45:03,599 vortexes and there could be 2162 01:45:11,000 --> 01:45:05,999 interdimensional in in theory right or 2163 01:45:13,279 --> 01:45:11,010 you know they could be Lord knows but I 2164 01:45:15,379 --> 01:45:13,289 think that what you guys saw there at 2165 01:45:18,080 --> 01:45:15,389 you know it's people have already seen 2166 01:45:19,969 --> 01:45:18,090 do you remember that show with Ryan D 2167 01:45:21,949 --> 01:45:19,979 Byul years ago he had the paranormal 2168 01:45:24,770 --> 01:45:21,959 state he has one of the first paranormal 2169 01:45:27,969 --> 01:45:24,780 shows that was on television yeah you 2170 01:45:31,689 --> 01:45:27,979 know a lot of these shows they like to 2171 01:45:34,040 --> 01:45:31,699 really sensationalized a lot right I 2172 01:45:35,959 --> 01:45:34,050 felt that one of the most genuine shows 2173 01:45:38,449 --> 01:45:35,969 that I had ever seen was when that group 2174 01:45:40,009 --> 01:45:38,459 of young kids from you know Penn I get 2175 01:45:42,830 --> 01:45:40,019 sort of from Penn State they went over 2176 01:45:44,810 --> 01:45:42,840 to be setting rings with James 2177 01:45:48,229 --> 01:45:44,820 mmm-hmm you can literally see it on 2178 01:45:52,129 --> 01:45:48,239 their faces at least in this one 2179 01:45:53,679 --> 01:45:52,139 particular episode they were they had no 2180 01:45:57,979 --> 01:45:53,689 clue what they were getting into 2181 01:46:02,029 --> 01:45:57,989 they had no they were like surrounded by 2182 01:46:03,439 --> 01:46:02,039 UFOs potential cryptids and the looks on 2183 01:46:06,529 --> 01:46:03,449 their faces during that particular 2184 01:46:08,810 --> 01:46:06,539 episode was like there ain't no producer 2185 01:46:10,819 --> 01:46:08,820 telling them what to do stuff is 2186 01:46:13,009 --> 01:46:10,829 happening around these guys and it's 2187 01:46:14,479 --> 01:46:13,019 affecting them and you could see it and 2188 01:46:16,310 --> 01:46:14,489 you know I've spoken with James before 2189 01:46:17,299 --> 01:46:16,320 you know James say had like a podcast 2190 01:46:19,979 --> 01:46:17,309 years ago 2191 01:46:21,540 --> 01:46:19,989 way back in 2012-2013 he had me on his 2192 01:46:23,820 --> 01:46:21,550 and I had a great conversation with them 2193 01:46:25,290 --> 01:46:23,830 and he actually extended me an 2194 01:46:28,620 --> 01:46:25,300 invitation out to the ranch I should 2195 01:46:31,380 --> 01:46:28,630 have went and it's all it's been one of 2196 01:46:34,590 --> 01:46:31,390 my dreams to go to ecity ranch and I saw 2197 01:46:35,100 --> 01:46:34,600 the pictures of your posting I'm so 2198 01:46:38,700 --> 01:46:35,110 jealous 2199 01:46:41,970 --> 01:46:38,710 honey they're there that's one of those 2200 01:46:44,010 --> 01:46:41,980 special locations there was I see when 2201 01:46:47,490 --> 01:46:44,020 we're talking about parallel world and 2202 01:46:50,820 --> 01:46:47,500 enter dementia ality it's very important 2203 01:46:54,240 --> 01:46:50,830 to not only have an open mind but it's 2204 01:46:57,600 --> 01:46:54,250 very important to realize that the 2205 01:47:01,229 --> 01:46:57,610 potential exists and then you get proof 2206 01:47:04,709 --> 01:47:01,239 and Rita took this amazing 2207 01:47:07,350 --> 01:47:04,719 Rita posed up for everybody so Anthony 2208 01:47:10,470 --> 01:47:07,360 can see this too as well this picture 2209 01:47:13,290 --> 01:47:10,480 that she took now what we're up there 2210 01:47:15,780 --> 01:47:13,300 flying photographs everywhere snap snap 2211 01:47:20,010 --> 01:47:15,790 science cell phones and cameras and and 2212 01:47:24,360 --> 01:47:20,020 video and and all kinds of different 2213 01:47:27,600 --> 01:47:24,370 media is being shot right and so Rita is 2214 01:47:30,690 --> 01:47:27,610 taking a series of pictures and then the 2215 01:47:32,729 --> 01:47:30,700 pictures be four of which there were 2216 01:47:35,670 --> 01:47:32,739 hundreds and the picture after this 2217 01:47:40,950 --> 01:47:35,680 particular image were all normal this 2218 01:47:43,650 --> 01:47:40,960 one image that was taken in the middle 2219 01:47:46,500 --> 01:47:43,660 of this medicine wheel it's hard to 2220 01:47:51,840 --> 01:47:46,510 explain but that doesn't matter with 2221 01:47:56,040 --> 01:47:51,850 that what she took was split the image 2222 01:48:00,209 --> 01:47:56,050 is split down the middle on the left 2223 01:48:02,070 --> 01:48:00,219 side normal right normal and then 2224 01:48:06,690 --> 01:48:02,080 there's this black line that goes down 2225 01:48:12,330 --> 01:48:06,700 and then on the right is it is a strange 2226 01:48:15,030 --> 01:48:12,340 version of the same scene everything is 2227 01:48:16,140 --> 01:48:15,040 different it's a little darker it's a 2228 01:48:19,650 --> 01:48:16,150 little thing it's a little 2229 01:48:25,170 --> 01:48:19,660 strange-looking it's a little bent and 2230 01:48:28,970 --> 01:48:25,180 it's digital now all all of the pictures 2231 01:48:32,130 --> 01:48:28,980 that she has taken sense have been fine 2232 01:48:33,400 --> 01:48:32,140 everything before that was fine this one 2233 01:48:37,840 --> 01:48:33,410 image 2234 01:48:41,670 --> 01:48:37,850 is this twisted view two views of the 2235 01:48:45,490 --> 01:48:41,680 same shot and it is bizarre and I'm 2236 01:48:47,740 --> 01:48:45,500 telling you she captured there's no 2237 01:48:50,860 --> 01:48:47,750 question you look at it and it is a 2238 01:48:53,440 --> 01:48:50,870 parallel world and it's divided with 2239 01:48:56,140 --> 01:48:53,450 this this black line this fuzzy black 2240 01:48:59,020 --> 01:48:56,150 line that goes down and it's like your 2241 01:49:01,630 --> 01:48:59,030 look you ever see the TV show Fringe yep 2242 01:49:03,670 --> 01:49:01,640 right so you have us and then you had 2243 01:49:05,230 --> 01:49:03,680 the other strange world right the red 2244 01:49:08,680 --> 01:49:05,240 world or whatever you want to call it 2245 01:49:10,570 --> 01:49:08,690 it's like that it's is this this photo 2246 01:49:12,520 --> 01:49:10,580 was taken in East Eddie it was taking 2247 01:49:17,470 --> 01:49:12,530 that East Eddie we've blown it up now we 2248 01:49:19,810 --> 01:49:17,480 have it like four feet or 5 feet by five 2249 01:49:23,230 --> 01:49:19,820 feet we have a large image of it and I 2250 01:49:25,570 --> 01:49:23,240 look at it and we printed a large 2251 01:49:28,780 --> 01:49:25,580 version of it and you just look at this 2252 01:49:31,180 --> 01:49:28,790 and if you ever wanted proof it is one 2253 01:49:33,220 --> 01:49:31,190 of the most fascinating images that I 2254 01:49:35,050 --> 01:49:33,230 don't have it on my drive in here Rita 2255 01:49:39,750 --> 01:49:35,060 can you please post this up in Twitter 2256 01:49:43,540 --> 01:49:39,760 and Anthony what's your uh Twitter it is 2257 01:49:47,020 --> 01:49:43,550 you Ethel Highway book at UFO highway 2258 01:49:49,150 --> 01:49:47,030 book okay and so just follow us right 2259 01:49:50,830 --> 01:49:49,160 now do you follow me okay let's let's 2260 01:49:53,200 --> 01:49:50,840 not do this on the air but just go and 2261 01:49:55,360 --> 01:49:53,210 if I I'm pretty sure you okay I'll 2262 01:49:57,040 --> 01:49:55,370 follow you too as well and go to hashtag 2263 01:50:00,520 --> 01:49:57,050 if tf2b 2264 01:50:03,660 --> 01:50:00,530 and get in there Rita we'll post this 2265 01:50:04,870 --> 01:50:03,670 image here in just a second but it is 2266 01:50:08,650 --> 01:50:04,880 unbelievable 2267 01:50:12,730 --> 01:50:08,660 now okay so let's go back really quick 2268 01:50:14,800 --> 01:50:12,740 to these situations where which I 2269 01:50:16,990 --> 01:50:14,810 outlined at the beginning of the show 2270 01:50:21,430 --> 01:50:17,000 where we've got these definitive 2271 01:50:24,130 --> 01:50:21,440 versions of ufology over the years going 2272 01:50:26,670 --> 01:50:24,140 back to the original UFO hypothesis 2273 01:50:30,970 --> 01:50:26,680 which was a nuts-and-bolts craft 2274 01:50:36,040 --> 01:50:30,980 traveling here with everything that was 2275 01:50:37,270 --> 01:50:36,050 going on in in the 40s and and the 50s 2276 01:50:39,300 --> 01:50:37,280 there was definite that you know 2277 01:50:43,000 --> 01:50:39,310 thousands of sightings and photographs 2278 01:50:46,270 --> 01:50:43,010 eyewitness testimony there you are okay 2279 01:50:46,810 --> 01:50:46,280 I'll follow you right now boom there you 2280 01:50:48,790 --> 01:50:46,820 go 2281 01:50:50,530 --> 01:50:48,800 I think I followed you did I follow you 2282 01:50:57,370 --> 01:50:50,540 I believe so 2283 01:51:01,060 --> 01:50:57,380 okay there you go okay Rita post up by 2284 01:51:05,500 --> 01:51:01,070 the the east side he shot she's probably 2285 01:51:10,149 --> 01:51:05,510 doing it now and was there the 2286 01:51:11,439 --> 01:51:10,159 possibility of those craft again I don't 2287 01:51:14,530 --> 01:51:11,449 think that they were traveling from 2288 01:51:17,950 --> 01:51:14,540 another universe or another solar system 2289 01:51:19,930 --> 01:51:17,960 or another star yeah that this could 2290 01:51:22,780 --> 01:51:19,940 have been again we were trying to wrap 2291 01:51:24,790 --> 01:51:22,790 our heads around why we couldn't catch 2292 01:51:28,209 --> 01:51:24,800 these things we had the Foo Fighters 2293 01:51:30,520 --> 01:51:28,219 right in World War two now it and we 2294 01:51:33,189 --> 01:51:30,530 couldn't figure out what was going on is 2295 01:51:35,859 --> 01:51:33,199 that an example of something that was 2296 01:51:38,530 --> 01:51:35,869 you know interdimensional or a parallel 2297 01:51:46,899 --> 01:51:38,540 world I strongly believe that it could 2298 01:51:51,430 --> 01:51:46,909 be are you simply because simply because 2299 01:51:52,990 --> 01:51:51,440 we we now know that some scientists can 2300 01:51:55,720 --> 01:51:53,000 can detect you know they have these 2301 01:51:57,729 --> 01:51:55,730 remember we talked about earlier how 2302 01:52:00,339 --> 01:51:57,739 they have these interference patterns 2303 01:52:02,580 --> 01:52:00,349 that they can do they can detect well 2304 01:52:05,859 --> 01:52:02,590 that they conduct they they can detect 2305 01:52:08,800 --> 01:52:05,869 information potentially coming from four 2306 01:52:12,129 --> 01:52:08,810 dimensional space if daddy's real like 2307 01:52:16,140 --> 01:52:12,139 they're saying it is then why not then 2308 01:52:19,030 --> 01:52:16,150 why not you know have the possibility of 2309 01:52:20,770 --> 01:52:19,040 craft that we see whether they're in the 2310 01:52:23,680 --> 01:52:20,780 form of light or some other physical 2311 01:52:28,000 --> 01:52:23,690 property you know not coming from the 2312 01:52:33,700 --> 01:52:28,010 from four dimensional space we need a 2313 01:52:36,669 --> 01:52:33,710 the the concept of of parallel worlds it 2314 01:52:38,530 --> 01:52:36,679 wasn't around in 1940 we were trying to 2315 01:52:40,720 --> 01:52:38,540 chase these craft we were trying to 2316 01:52:44,080 --> 01:52:40,730 shoot them down we were doing everything 2317 01:52:45,640 --> 01:52:44,090 that we could to get answers we didn't 2318 01:52:46,899 --> 01:52:45,650 know if it was Russian we didn't know if 2319 01:52:48,700 --> 01:52:46,909 they were coming from Mars 2320 01:52:52,149 --> 01:52:48,710 we just didn't you know we didn't have 2321 01:52:55,140 --> 01:52:52,159 these answers do you know it could it 2322 01:52:58,030 --> 01:52:55,150 won't cure the thing though Jim remember 2323 01:52:59,859 --> 01:52:58,040 any sufficient this is this is arthur c 2324 01:53:00,730 --> 01:52:59,869 clarke three laws the third law is any 2325 01:53:03,690 --> 01:53:00,740 sufficiently 2326 01:53:06,910 --> 01:53:03,700 technology is indistinguishable 2327 01:53:10,240 --> 01:53:06,920 indistinguishable from magic in the 2328 01:53:15,790 --> 01:53:10,250 1940s in the 1930s you can add people 2329 01:53:17,580 --> 01:53:15,800 practicing in the in the in the 2330 01:53:20,620 --> 01:53:17,590 paranormal world or this or the 2331 01:53:23,380 --> 01:53:20,630 alternative spiritual world some of them 2332 01:53:27,840 --> 01:53:23,390 were claiming to have made contact with 2333 01:53:31,360 --> 01:53:27,850 beings that were not human right 2334 01:53:34,330 --> 01:53:31,370 Aleister Crowley and and the what was 2335 01:53:36,370 --> 01:53:34,340 the name of the it looked like a great 2336 01:53:38,020 --> 01:53:36,380 alien the being that Aleister Crowley 2337 01:53:40,840 --> 01:53:38,030 was yeah I was right to think of his 2338 01:53:44,740 --> 01:53:40,850 name it doesn't matter but yeah he drew 2339 01:53:46,870 --> 01:53:44,750 right so was that an interdimensional 2340 01:53:49,060 --> 01:53:46,880 being was it was he channeling that beam 2341 01:53:50,590 --> 01:53:49,070 from another reality was that something 2342 01:53:54,730 --> 01:53:50,600 that was physically coming into our 2343 01:53:56,170 --> 01:53:54,740 existence so I mean yeah you know they 2344 01:53:57,820 --> 01:53:56,180 didn't understand maybe they didn't 2345 01:54:00,790 --> 01:53:57,830 understand the science but they knew how 2346 01:54:03,670 --> 01:54:00,800 to practice at a specific level if it 2347 01:54:05,590 --> 01:54:03,680 was a reality you know if this was a 2348 01:54:09,480 --> 01:54:05,600 reality that you know they were able to 2349 01:54:15,630 --> 01:54:09,490 channel these beings sort of thought 2350 01:54:18,070 --> 01:54:15,640 remember also when I had mentioned that 2351 01:54:20,040 --> 01:54:18,080 electrical energy could exist and live 2352 01:54:23,080 --> 01:54:20,050 in a reality that operates on a 2353 01:54:26,890 --> 01:54:23,090 non-physical but energy driven thought 2354 01:54:30,190 --> 01:54:26,900 based universe could we be powerful 2355 01:54:32,740 --> 01:54:30,200 enough at a subconscious level or even 2356 01:54:35,680 --> 01:54:32,750 at a conscious level to manifest 2357 01:54:37,090 --> 01:54:35,690 something from another reality can we do 2358 01:54:39,760 --> 01:54:37,100 that with our brains they say we only 2359 01:54:42,010 --> 01:54:39,770 use 10% of our brain right there 2360 01:54:46,840 --> 01:54:42,020 couldn't look there could be individuals 2361 01:54:49,120 --> 01:54:46,850 like Einstein his name was lamb lamb 2362 01:54:50,890 --> 01:54:49,130 that is right right so if you look up 2363 01:54:53,650 --> 01:54:50,900 Aleister Crowley and you look up the 2364 01:54:55,480 --> 01:54:53,660 being the entity lamb it looks like a 2365 01:54:57,370 --> 01:54:55,490 gray alien to me a hundred percent 2366 01:54:59,260 --> 01:54:57,380 there's no question about that you know 2367 01:55:01,930 --> 01:54:59,270 now when we come back off of the break 2368 01:55:05,310 --> 01:55:01,940 this is where this conversation is gonna 2369 01:55:09,220 --> 01:55:05,320 take an interesting turn you have been 2370 01:55:10,830 --> 01:55:09,230 developing software along with uh Steven 2371 01:55:14,110 --> 01:55:10,840 Huff 2372 01:55:16,480 --> 01:55:14,120 for paranormal research 2373 01:55:18,490 --> 01:55:16,490 in contact with the other side I've 2374 01:55:20,560 --> 01:55:18,500 always said that's another dimension 2375 01:55:22,450 --> 01:55:20,570 that's another parallel world it's a 2376 01:55:25,090 --> 01:55:22,460 world that is existing right now around 2377 01:55:27,130 --> 01:55:25,100 us all the time you have been developing 2378 01:55:30,160 --> 01:55:27,140 the software and you've been making this 2379 01:55:32,350 --> 01:55:30,170 contact for a very long time so we're 2380 01:55:33,850 --> 01:55:32,360 gonna take a break right there and when 2381 01:55:36,550 --> 01:55:33,860 we come back we're gonna talk about this 2382 01:55:39,190 --> 01:55:36,560 contact that you have made the software 2383 01:55:41,470 --> 01:55:39,200 itself how many versions how many people 2384 01:55:47,050 --> 01:55:41,480 are out there using this right now you 2385 01:55:48,910 --> 01:55:47,060 know I can say that I have over 10,000 2386 01:55:50,680 --> 01:55:48,920 active users around the world of my 2387 01:55:53,230 --> 01:55:50,690 software right now and they're making 2388 01:55:55,420 --> 01:55:53,240 contact as we speak a lot of them are 2389 01:55:57,220 --> 01:55:55,430 you can see the videos that they post on 2390 01:56:01,030 --> 01:55:57,230 YouTube I just made a movie called 2391 01:56:03,550 --> 01:56:01,040 haunted mines and that movie details my 2392 01:56:05,350 --> 01:56:03,560 own personal experiences with the 2393 01:56:06,210 --> 01:56:05,360 software tapping into the ultra-high 2394 01:56:08,950 --> 01:56:06,220 frequency 2395 01:56:11,410 --> 01:56:08,960 communicating directly with spirits see 2396 01:56:12,880 --> 01:56:11,420 this is the thing man I'm just gonna 2397 01:56:15,610 --> 01:56:12,890 tell you right now and I told Stephen 2398 01:56:19,240 --> 01:56:15,620 Huff this it scares the crap out of me 2399 01:56:21,720 --> 01:56:19,250 Matt it really does because it's real 2400 01:56:27,310 --> 01:56:21,730 and it exists and you can do it yourself 2401 01:56:28,000 --> 01:56:27,320 me I'm not going there maybe soon our 2402 01:56:30,520 --> 01:56:28,010 guest tonight 2403 01:56:34,959 --> 01:56:30,530 Anthony fade or not Sanchez we'll be 2404 01:56:41,340 --> 01:56:37,699 the mental guard on Jimmy Church radio 2405 01:56:47,980 --> 01:56:44,650 this is KCRA digital broadcasting 2406 01:56:52,330 --> 01:56:47,990 station Salt Lake City Utah Van Buren 2407 01:56:54,880 --> 01:56:52,340 Arkansas let's get this man to the ER 2408 01:56:57,610 --> 01:56:54,890 stat right away doctor we see this every 2409 01:56:59,860 --> 01:56:57,620 day heart attack or angina pain due to 2410 01:57:02,230 --> 01:56:59,870 blocked and clogged arteries chelation 2411 01:57:04,390 --> 01:57:02,240 can remove obstructions or 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Brooks I fade to black because 2492 02:00:28,580 --> 02:00:26,070 this is fade to black with Jimmy Church 2493 02:00:33,400 --> 02:00:28,590 on the game changer radio network and 2494 02:00:45,429 --> 02:00:33,410 kgr a the global radio alliance 2495 02:00:47,500 --> 02:00:45,439 [Music] 2496 02:00:52,359 --> 02:00:47,510 all right welcome back fade to black I'm 2497 02:00:55,750 --> 02:00:52,369 at home Jimmy Church on the game changer 2498 02:00:56,020 --> 02:00:55,760 network and kg RA the planets our guest 2499 02:00:59,109 --> 02:00:56,030 tonight 2500 02:01:02,379 --> 02:00:59,119 Anthony F Sanchez now we're talking 2501 02:01:07,439 --> 02:01:02,389 about interdimensional and parallel 2502 02:01:11,080 --> 02:01:07,449 world contact with et that is one of the 2503 02:01:14,080 --> 02:01:11,090 concepts the theories the ideas that may 2504 02:01:15,549 --> 02:01:14,090 be going down today with my contact with 2505 02:01:18,699 --> 02:01:15,559 what I've seen with what I have 2506 02:01:22,120 --> 02:01:18,709 photographed a night vision and sky 2507 02:01:25,810 --> 02:01:22,130 watching it seems like that would be a 2508 02:01:29,290 --> 02:01:25,820 simple answer to a lot of questions out 2509 02:01:31,719 --> 02:01:29,300 there and an Anthony I know that I know 2510 02:01:34,390 --> 02:01:31,729 that it's it's almost too broad of a 2511 02:01:37,509 --> 02:01:34,400 concept mm-hmm you know and suddenly it 2512 02:01:41,350 --> 02:01:37,519 but it is a simple answer that takes 2513 02:01:44,580 --> 02:01:41,360 care of light speed light travel 2514 02:01:49,120 --> 02:01:44,590 wormholes of black holes 2515 02:01:51,189 --> 02:01:49,130 Einstein living you would almost have to 2516 02:01:56,259 --> 02:01:51,199 be immortal right if you were on a 2517 02:01:59,529 --> 02:01:56,269 spacecraft and and flying 10,000 light 2518 02:02:02,589 --> 02:01:59,539 years you know that's the you know these 2519 02:02:05,409 --> 02:02:02,599 distances are vast but if we if we jump 2520 02:02:08,169 --> 02:02:05,419 into this concept certainly intelligent 2521 02:02:10,540 --> 02:02:08,179 life out there that is thousands if not 2522 02:02:13,449 --> 02:02:10,550 millions of years more advanced than us 2523 02:02:16,299 --> 02:02:13,459 they would figure out exactly how to get 2524 02:02:20,859 --> 02:02:16,309 into this quantum aspect and and maybe 2525 02:02:25,659 --> 02:02:20,869 just jump between worlds who's to say 2526 02:02:29,199 --> 02:02:25,669 that the paranormal is not a facet of or 2527 02:02:30,609 --> 02:02:29,209 of a quantum reality well that's exactly 2528 02:02:32,919 --> 02:02:30,619 yeah exactly 2529 02:02:36,370 --> 02:02:32,929 nobody has the answer it's just like I 2530 02:02:39,939 --> 02:02:36,380 had said earlier today you know when it 2531 02:02:42,429 --> 02:02:39,949 comes to our universe and Big Bang and 2532 02:02:46,120 --> 02:02:42,439 and what we know and what we see you 2533 02:02:50,140 --> 02:02:46,130 know what nobody nobody has seen the 2534 02:02:52,179 --> 02:02:50,150 other side of this universe you are 2535 02:02:54,489 --> 02:02:52,189 talking now these are bright people they 2536 02:02:56,770 --> 02:02:54,499 have lots of research and they've been 2537 02:02:58,839 --> 02:02:56,780 crunching numbers and have been looking 2538 02:02:59,080 --> 02:02:58,849 into telescopes and imaging and they 2539 02:03:02,260 --> 02:02:59,090 have 2540 02:03:04,720 --> 02:03:02,270 their theories and their ideas okay all 2541 02:03:06,430 --> 02:03:04,730 right all good but you know what in the 2542 02:03:11,070 --> 02:03:06,440 end we'll find out that we've all been 2543 02:03:13,629 --> 02:03:11,080 wrong that's really the truth now your 2544 02:03:15,550 --> 02:03:13,639 software and you should post it up there 2545 02:03:17,320 --> 02:03:15,560 and Twitter and and the links to it oh 2546 02:03:18,189 --> 02:03:17,330 thank you I really appreciate that yeah 2547 02:03:22,410 --> 02:03:18,199 not a problem 2548 02:03:25,959 --> 02:03:22,420 your software has been showing just that 2549 02:03:27,580 --> 02:03:25,969 Steven Huff who you've been working with 2550 02:03:30,370 --> 02:03:27,590 for quite a while 2551 02:03:33,879 --> 02:03:30,380 his videos right drinking coffee with 2552 02:03:37,899 --> 02:03:33,889 Steve or whatever he calls my coffee 2553 02:03:41,530 --> 02:03:37,909 time and and you know he's firing up the 2554 02:03:43,750 --> 02:03:41,540 gear and he's jumping into this and it's 2555 02:03:47,260 --> 02:03:43,760 just like what you know he's brewing his 2556 02:03:49,990 --> 02:03:47,270 coffee and and it's like good morning 2557 02:03:52,479 --> 02:03:50,000 Steve it's like what you know and some 2558 02:03:55,959 --> 02:03:52,489 of this stuff is pretty dark and some of 2559 02:03:59,020 --> 02:03:55,969 it sounds sad but the contact is real 2560 02:04:05,410 --> 02:03:59,030 how easy is it do you do it every day 2561 02:04:07,000 --> 02:04:05,420 you know I I don't because once I 2562 02:04:09,160 --> 02:04:07,010 started developing suffer for the 2563 02:04:13,660 --> 02:04:09,170 paranormal I realized that I was 2564 02:04:14,620 --> 02:04:13,670 potentially opening up these I mean I 2565 02:04:16,540 --> 02:04:14,630 don't know what else to call them give 2566 02:04:20,410 --> 02:04:16,550 me about portals portals to what portals 2567 02:04:22,930 --> 02:04:20,420 to a dark existence strange things 2568 02:04:26,470 --> 02:04:22,940 happened my friend when you use when you 2569 02:04:29,439 --> 02:04:26,480 when you actively pursue communication 2570 02:04:31,859 --> 02:04:29,449 with the other side when you start to 2571 02:04:34,720 --> 02:04:31,869 delve into this darker spiritual realm 2572 02:04:37,359 --> 02:04:34,730 Steve Huff is what we call a spiritual 2573 02:04:39,580 --> 02:04:37,369 magnet the guy seems to be able to turn 2574 02:04:41,680 --> 02:04:39,590 it on and boom spirits are talking with 2575 02:04:44,680 --> 02:04:41,690 them and he's having these full-blown 2576 02:04:47,379 --> 02:04:44,690 communications with something coming 2577 02:04:51,040 --> 02:04:47,389 from the other side right we we 2578 02:04:53,530 --> 02:04:51,050 partnered up and we wrote the the SCD 2579 02:04:56,320 --> 02:04:53,540 ones it's it's an acronym for the spirit 2580 02:04:59,680 --> 02:04:56,330 communications device number one and we 2581 02:05:05,800 --> 02:04:59,690 also have an SAT - who did several apps 2582 02:05:07,390 --> 02:05:05,810 together and not only Steve but well we 2583 02:05:10,270 --> 02:05:07,400 release these apps and then Steve 2584 02:05:12,620 --> 02:05:10,280 demonstrated how to use them people who 2585 02:05:15,470 --> 02:05:12,630 had never thought 2586 02:05:21,280 --> 02:05:15,480 to communicate with like a lost loved 2587 02:05:23,450 --> 02:05:21,290 one or somebody at a haunted location 2588 02:05:25,160 --> 02:05:23,460 people who had never thought that they 2589 02:05:27,080 --> 02:05:25,170 would actually make communication 2590 02:05:30,470 --> 02:05:27,090 started making communication and not 2591 02:05:32,930 --> 02:05:30,480 everybody was happy about it you had 2592 02:05:35,780 --> 02:05:32,940 people who were getting answers they 2593 02:05:40,459 --> 02:05:35,790 didn't want to hear you had people that 2594 02:05:42,200 --> 02:05:40,469 were realizing that once they did make 2595 02:05:43,850 --> 02:05:42,210 communication with like a lost loved one 2596 02:05:46,720 --> 02:05:43,860 it was just too emotional it was just 2597 02:05:50,570 --> 02:05:46,730 too overwhelming for them to deal with 2598 02:05:52,100 --> 02:05:50,580 so Steve he's trained himself you know 2599 02:05:54,399 --> 02:05:52,110 over the years to know how to handle 2600 02:05:58,370 --> 02:05:54,409 those types of situations me personally 2601 02:06:01,930 --> 02:05:58,380 I into it from a scientific perspective 2602 02:06:05,500 --> 02:06:01,940 I wanted to understand how to utilize 2603 02:06:08,060 --> 02:06:05,510 Bluetooth technology on computers to 2604 02:06:10,160 --> 02:06:08,070 scan the ultra-high frequency and see if 2605 02:06:11,750 --> 02:06:10,170 there's anything out there and could we 2606 02:06:13,189 --> 02:06:11,760 make communication with them you know I 2607 02:06:17,570 --> 02:06:13,199 had an app that I wrote called the 2608 02:06:21,890 --> 02:06:17,580 ethereal and that was an app with Steve 2609 02:06:26,030 --> 02:06:21,900 Huff and I actually sent out messages in 2610 02:06:29,770 --> 02:06:26,040 binary format over radio waves I don't 2611 02:06:33,070 --> 02:06:29,780 know you know tenkan these entities 2612 02:06:37,669 --> 02:06:33,080 contact you know us you know through 2613 02:06:39,530 --> 02:06:37,679 radio waves at a binary level I didn't 2614 02:06:42,169 --> 02:06:39,540 know but I made the app anyway I tried 2615 02:06:44,830 --> 02:06:42,179 it out and you have people all over the 2616 02:06:48,229 --> 02:06:44,840 world using that app now who swear that 2617 02:06:49,669 --> 02:06:48,239 they are able to put together messages 2618 02:06:53,439 --> 02:06:49,679 and send them out over a binary 2619 02:06:56,810 --> 02:06:53,449 structure across radio waves and elicit 2620 02:06:58,610 --> 02:06:56,820 communication from spirits and it's not 2621 02:07:02,330 --> 02:06:58,620 always happy messages that they're 2622 02:07:04,879 --> 02:07:02,340 getting back right right but it gets 2623 02:07:08,479 --> 02:07:04,889 scary at times I just released a movie 2624 02:07:10,490 --> 02:07:08,489 two months ago it was my first time ever 2625 02:07:13,669 --> 02:07:10,500 writing directing and producing a 2626 02:07:18,620 --> 02:07:13,679 documentary and it took me several years 2627 02:07:21,950 --> 02:07:18,630 to put it to all together because I went 2628 02:07:25,129 --> 02:07:21,960 to multiple locations I went to the USS 2629 02:07:26,330 --> 02:07:25,139 Hornet I went to the manzanita Pioneer 2630 02:07:28,430 --> 02:07:26,340 Cemetery 2631 02:07:31,070 --> 02:07:28,440 here in Placer County and I went to a 2632 02:07:35,089 --> 02:07:31,080 haunted cabin in Virginia City that was 2633 02:07:37,640 --> 02:07:35,099 a temporary morgue at one point I went 2634 02:07:41,180 --> 02:07:37,650 to the boulder on a hotel in Boulder 2635 02:07:46,669 --> 02:07:41,190 Colorado these are some very well known 2636 02:07:49,459 --> 02:07:46,679 haunted places and I wanted to see could 2637 02:07:52,970 --> 02:07:49,469 we make communication with them every 2638 02:07:55,490 --> 02:07:52,980 single place that we went to we managed 2639 02:07:59,479 --> 02:07:55,500 to get communication we managed to 2640 02:08:00,919 --> 02:07:59,489 document on film some crazy stuff and I 2641 02:08:02,629 --> 02:08:00,929 really recommend that everybody it's 2642 02:08:05,540 --> 02:08:02,639 free you don't have to pay for it it's a 2643 02:08:08,089 --> 02:08:05,550 one hour long documentary it's very well 2644 02:08:09,649 --> 02:08:08,099 done it had a lot of help with it it's 2645 02:08:12,740 --> 02:08:09,659 called if you go to youtube and you type 2646 02:08:14,959 --> 02:08:12,750 it haunted mines it'll come right up a 2647 02:08:17,629 --> 02:08:14,969 haunted mines The Ghost Box sessions 2648 02:08:20,330 --> 02:08:17,639 yeah I'm looking at it movie well it's 2649 02:08:22,490 --> 02:08:20,340 right there on your home page - for 2650 02:08:26,240 --> 02:08:22,500 ghost hunter apps dot-com it's right 2651 02:08:28,550 --> 02:08:26,250 right right it's right there I really 2652 02:08:32,540 --> 02:08:28,560 recommend that you see that because that 2653 02:08:36,459 --> 02:08:32,550 will give you a better idea of how we're 2654 02:08:41,240 --> 02:08:36,469 now utilizing technology to communicate 2655 02:08:43,280 --> 02:08:41,250 with the other side and it all falls 2656 02:08:45,229 --> 02:08:43,290 under science called ITC which is 2657 02:08:47,089 --> 02:08:45,239 instrumental transcommunication and 2658 02:08:52,070 --> 02:08:47,099 that's nothing new that's been around 2659 02:08:56,209 --> 02:08:52,080 since the 1930s the 1920s even with the 2660 02:08:57,470 --> 02:08:56,219 advent of radio right so it's just that 2661 02:08:59,810 --> 02:08:57,480 now we're taking it to a whole nother 2662 02:09:00,879 --> 02:08:59,820 level and you can Steve Huff is in the 2663 02:09:03,200 --> 02:09:00,889 movie 2664 02:09:06,379 --> 02:09:03,210 Connie Willis also from coast to coast 2665 02:09:09,379 --> 02:09:06,389 is she's in the movie and and it gets 2666 02:09:12,050 --> 02:09:09,389 really really involved really fast and I 2667 02:09:14,720 --> 02:09:12,060 jump right into it but what I try to do 2668 02:09:18,410 --> 02:09:14,730 is I try to educate people on how to 2669 02:09:21,379 --> 02:09:18,420 proceed using these types of software 2670 02:09:24,320 --> 02:09:21,389 applications that utilize Bluetooth 2671 02:09:26,060 --> 02:09:24,330 technology to communicate across the 2672 02:09:27,080 --> 02:09:26,070 ultra-high frequency no one's ever done 2673 02:09:31,760 --> 02:09:27,090 that before I believe I'm the first 2674 02:09:33,680 --> 02:09:31,770 person to do that the now I've got this 2675 02:09:35,750 --> 02:09:33,690 picture up I wanted to show you of this 2676 02:09:38,240 --> 02:09:35,760 parallel world but Rita sent it to me on 2677 02:09:39,979 --> 02:09:38,250 the wrong computer so it's got to come 2678 02:09:42,890 --> 02:09:39,989 over to the other side Rita 2679 02:09:45,500 --> 02:09:42,900 it's so if you could post it up in 2680 02:09:47,209 --> 02:09:45,510 Twitter she heard me but he sent it to 2681 02:09:50,209 --> 02:09:47,219 me in the wrong thing you've got to see 2682 02:09:53,720 --> 02:09:50,219 this because the parallel worlds that we 2683 02:09:59,680 --> 02:09:53,730 are talking about the other side if you 2684 02:10:01,910 --> 02:09:59,690 will it exists but we can't necessarily 2685 02:10:03,850 --> 02:10:01,920 communicate with it because it's on it I 2686 02:10:07,040 --> 02:10:03,860 I feel that it's on another frequency 2687 02:10:09,740 --> 02:10:07,050 but because we're dealing with like 2688 02:10:12,800 --> 02:10:09,750 you're saying ones and zeros electrical 2689 02:10:15,290 --> 02:10:12,810 signal it's a it's a electromagnetic 2690 02:10:17,630 --> 02:10:15,300 world they are able to communicate back 2691 02:10:21,530 --> 02:10:17,640 with us through different electronic 2692 02:10:24,680 --> 02:10:21,540 devices and I think that that is an 2693 02:10:27,709 --> 02:10:24,690 accident right the digital technology 2694 02:10:30,740 --> 02:10:27,719 that we have today wasn't designed for 2695 02:10:34,040 --> 02:10:30,750 that but because they are able to get 2696 02:10:35,720 --> 02:10:34,050 into you know EVPs you know into 2697 02:10:38,709 --> 02:10:35,730 electronic equipment that's where the 2698 02:10:43,040 --> 02:10:38,719 communication happens because they are 2699 02:10:45,860 --> 02:10:43,050 electric right they are am I making 2700 02:10:48,979 --> 02:10:45,870 sense here you're making absolute sense 2701 02:10:51,800 --> 02:10:48,989 and that's why on like with my newer 2702 02:10:53,690 --> 02:10:51,810 software I'm actually incorporating 2703 02:10:56,450 --> 02:10:53,700 physical recording devices within the 2704 02:10:58,580 --> 02:10:56,460 software so that not only will it record 2705 02:11:00,650 --> 02:10:58,590 from your microphone picking up whatever 2706 02:11:02,690 --> 02:11:00,660 might be in the ether surrounding you 2707 02:11:04,490 --> 02:11:02,700 but it's also picking up whatever's 2708 02:11:09,200 --> 02:11:04,500 coming from that machine that you are 2709 02:11:11,660 --> 02:11:09,210 using so you have to recording input 2710 02:11:13,430 --> 02:11:11,670 sources so you have your mic and you 2711 02:11:15,890 --> 02:11:13,440 have whatever is being generated by the 2712 02:11:20,060 --> 02:11:15,900 circuitry on the PC or the laptop or 2713 02:11:23,420 --> 02:11:20,070 tablet and that's that's that's a game 2714 02:11:31,250 --> 02:11:23,430 changer right there yeah the frustration 2715 02:11:33,500 --> 02:11:31,260 that we hear with these these beings the 2716 02:11:36,020 --> 02:11:33,510 frustration that they can't necessarily 2717 02:11:38,209 --> 02:11:36,030 go physical they can't communicate 2718 02:11:39,650 --> 02:11:38,219 directly with us we can't directly hear 2719 02:11:41,420 --> 02:11:39,660 them they want to they're frustrated 2720 02:11:43,370 --> 02:11:41,430 they're they're stuck they want to come 2721 02:11:45,530 --> 02:11:43,380 back maybe they you know they want to go 2722 02:11:48,380 --> 02:11:45,540 somewhere else you know it's just a few 2723 02:11:51,620 --> 02:11:48,390 here the frustration the sadness the 2724 02:11:52,380 --> 02:11:51,630 terror in some cases and learnings into 2725 02:11:53,850 --> 02:11:52,390 the warning 2726 02:11:56,600 --> 02:11:53,860 and the only way that they can 2727 02:12:00,270 --> 02:11:56,610 communicate back through to us is 2728 02:12:01,980 --> 02:12:00,280 electronically and that is it's 2729 02:12:04,650 --> 02:12:01,990 frustrating for them because they can't 2730 02:12:07,860 --> 02:12:04,660 necessarily control what's going on you 2731 02:12:11,700 --> 02:12:07,870 hear evidence of this everywhere and for 2732 02:12:14,130 --> 02:12:11,710 me it's emotional you know and and you 2733 02:12:16,860 --> 02:12:14,140 hear children's voices and you hear you 2734 02:12:19,140 --> 02:12:16,870 know women that you know this this 2735 02:12:21,660 --> 02:12:19,150 sadness because they are in a world that 2736 02:12:24,090 --> 02:12:21,670 they don't understand they don't know 2737 02:12:27,330 --> 02:12:24,100 where they are and they can't do 2738 02:12:29,820 --> 02:12:27,340 anything about it and that is it's 2739 02:12:32,940 --> 02:12:29,830 fascinating but very very sad and 2740 02:12:36,060 --> 02:12:32,950 emotional at the same time oh yeah and 2741 02:12:41,700 --> 02:12:36,070 you know so I think I'm one of the first 2742 02:12:45,690 --> 02:12:41,710 people to devise a method that would 2743 02:12:49,830 --> 02:12:45,700 allow entities to communicate back to us 2744 02:12:53,100 --> 02:12:49,840 see what I did was in my software one of 2745 02:12:58,050 --> 02:12:53,110 the things that I do is I utilize the 2746 02:13:00,570 --> 02:12:58,060 ability to detect fluctuations in radio 2747 02:13:03,860 --> 02:13:00,580 frequencies or which are the same exact 2748 02:13:06,030 --> 02:13:03,870 thing as electromagnetic fluctuations so 2749 02:13:07,470 --> 02:13:06,040 electromagnetic interference is the same 2750 02:13:08,940 --> 02:13:07,480 exact thing as regular frequency 2751 02:13:10,740 --> 02:13:08,950 interference if you look it up the 2752 02:13:11,940 --> 02:13:10,750 identical it's the same thing just 2753 02:13:13,890 --> 02:13:11,950 different terminologies when you use 2754 02:13:18,390 --> 02:13:13,900 them at different you know disciplines 2755 02:13:20,400 --> 02:13:18,400 so what I did was is I scanned the 2756 02:13:22,110 --> 02:13:20,410 ultra-high frequency the entire range of 2757 02:13:24,330 --> 02:13:22,120 the ultra-high frequency that the 2758 02:13:27,030 --> 02:13:24,340 Bluetooth devices are capable of 2759 02:13:29,040 --> 02:13:27,040 scanning sans I think three reserved 2760 02:13:35,460 --> 02:13:29,050 frequencies that are that don't have 2761 02:13:37,470 --> 02:13:35,470 anything and I draw a sine wave if the 2762 02:13:40,470 --> 02:13:37,480 sine wave comes back with its expected 2763 02:13:43,610 --> 02:13:40,480 parameters on a specific frequency then 2764 02:13:48,630 --> 02:13:43,620 nothing happened on their frequency so 2765 02:13:50,640 --> 02:13:48,640 what I do is is I utilize oriental I 2766 02:13:55,710 --> 02:13:50,650 employ a method called pattern 2767 02:13:57,270 --> 02:13:55,720 recognition so I play audio files as you 2768 02:13:58,980 --> 02:13:57,280 know and the ultra-high frequency there 2769 02:14:01,200 --> 02:13:58,990 are no radio stations there's no music 2770 02:14:04,200 --> 02:14:01,210 being played there's nobody talking but 2771 02:14:05,919 --> 02:14:04,210 what you have are real radio frequencies 2772 02:14:07,870 --> 02:14:05,929 that are being affected by 2773 02:14:10,209 --> 02:14:07,880 radiation that surrounds us all the time 2774 02:14:11,410 --> 02:14:10,219 right like when you use a k2 meter when 2775 02:14:13,060 --> 02:14:11,420 you go into a haunted house and the 2776 02:14:15,399 --> 02:14:13,070 little thing lights up and it beats you 2777 02:14:17,740 --> 02:14:15,409 know that the electromagnetic frequency 2778 02:14:20,439 --> 02:14:17,750 in that space was affected by something 2779 02:14:22,330 --> 02:14:20,449 and if there's no electrical outlets and 2780 02:14:23,530 --> 02:14:22,340 the powers off in this abandoned 2781 02:14:27,370 --> 02:14:23,540 facility or whatever then you know 2782 02:14:29,320 --> 02:14:27,380 something is affecting it so that's 2783 02:14:31,600 --> 02:14:29,330 exactly what I deal with tablets and 2784 02:14:33,490 --> 02:14:31,610 laptops people that utilize my software 2785 02:14:34,930 --> 02:14:33,500 they take them with you no because you 2786 02:14:36,310 --> 02:14:34,940 want to be mobile nowadays when you go 2787 02:14:39,160 --> 02:14:36,320 to a haunted location a lot of people 2788 02:14:41,380 --> 02:14:39,170 use phones but I prefer to use tablets 2789 02:14:43,090 --> 02:14:41,390 and laptops you know because they're 2790 02:14:45,550 --> 02:14:43,100 more processing power or better or 2791 02:14:50,200 --> 02:14:45,560 whatever and they all come with 2792 02:14:52,209 --> 02:14:50,210 bluetooth nowadays so I I said I was 2793 02:14:54,550 --> 02:14:52,219 talking about pattern recognition so I 2794 02:14:56,260 --> 02:14:54,560 will take like let's say in the case of 2795 02:15:00,100 --> 02:14:56,270 the the one app that I have which is 2796 02:15:03,640 --> 02:15:00,110 called the GB one I take 11,000 micro 2797 02:15:06,610 --> 02:15:03,650 mp3 files in each file has a unique 2798 02:15:10,330 --> 02:15:06,620 audio signature so each one of those 2799 02:15:12,970 --> 02:15:10,340 files has something called a GUI ID 2800 02:15:16,870 --> 02:15:12,980 which is a 128 bit unique identifier 2801 02:15:19,060 --> 02:15:16,880 assigned to it so I will divide those 11 2802 02:15:21,340 --> 02:15:19,070 thousand files by the number of 2803 02:15:25,240 --> 02:15:21,350 frequencies that are in the known range 2804 02:15:27,280 --> 02:15:25,250 for UHF so in this case it's like I 2805 02:15:31,450 --> 02:15:27,290 think it's 83 or something mm-hm 2806 02:15:34,570 --> 02:15:31,460 so when somebody is when when the 2807 02:15:37,720 --> 02:15:34,580 program detects a fluctuation on 2808 02:15:40,390 --> 02:15:37,730 frequency 2.40 2 gigahertz which is the 2809 02:15:42,750 --> 02:15:40,400 first frequency in the range all he goes 2810 02:15:47,050 --> 02:15:42,760 all the way to two point five two point 2811 02:15:50,500 --> 02:15:47,060 two point eight five gigahertz and that 2812 02:15:52,330 --> 02:15:50,510 specific frequency I do I then divide it 2813 02:15:55,750 --> 02:15:52,340 up with them with a matrix that says 2814 02:15:58,959 --> 02:15:55,760 from zero to 100 for signal strength so 2815 02:16:00,790 --> 02:15:58,969 it's not just the frequency that you're 2816 02:16:03,160 --> 02:16:00,800 detecting you're detecting the signal 2817 02:16:05,229 --> 02:16:03,170 strength so remember I mentioned a sine 2818 02:16:08,260 --> 02:16:05,239 wave that I draw programmatically that's 2819 02:16:12,399 --> 02:16:08,270 right if that sine wave comes back with 2820 02:16:15,040 --> 02:16:12,409 an anomalous you know spike whether it's 2821 02:16:17,140 --> 02:16:15,050 up or down outside of the expected 2822 02:16:18,250 --> 02:16:17,150 parameters I could take that spike 2823 02:16:22,180 --> 02:16:18,260 measure 2824 02:16:25,090 --> 02:16:22,190 and then say oh well this went all the 2825 02:16:28,660 --> 02:16:25,100 way up to 51 so well guess what on that 2826 02:16:31,270 --> 02:16:28,670 frequency at the 51 signal strength 2827 02:16:33,700 --> 02:16:31,280 remember those 11000 mp3s I was telling 2828 02:16:35,500 --> 02:16:33,710 you about right there's one assigned to 2829 02:16:37,810 --> 02:16:35,510 it there's one assigned to every 2830 02:16:42,400 --> 02:16:37,820 frequency for every signal strength from 2831 02:16:45,250 --> 02:16:42,410 0 to 100 so we then get these patterns 2832 02:16:46,839 --> 02:16:45,260 of audio that come back to us listen I 2833 02:16:49,030 --> 02:16:46,849 did not develop this for ghost-hunting 2834 02:16:52,089 --> 02:16:49,040 I developed this to see if I could 2835 02:16:55,570 --> 02:16:52,099 detect alien signatures at area 51 right 2836 02:16:59,950 --> 02:16:55,580 I wanted to see is there unknown 2837 02:17:02,230 --> 02:16:59,960 communication happening at area 51 on 2838 02:17:04,750 --> 02:17:02,240 the ultra-high frequency because nobody 2839 02:17:07,660 --> 02:17:04,760 else was looking at that and I did find 2840 02:17:09,790 --> 02:17:07,670 strange patterns emerging so I know 2841 02:17:12,400 --> 02:17:09,800 something was happening out there well 2842 02:17:13,930 --> 02:17:12,410 it was a buddy of mine whose son bill 2843 02:17:16,120 --> 02:17:13,940 Murphy who used to be on this show 2844 02:17:18,640 --> 02:17:16,130 called factor fake paranormal files on 2845 02:17:20,169 --> 02:17:18,650 the sci-fi Network absolutely bill was 2846 02:17:21,730 --> 02:17:20,179 the one that said hey did you you just 2847 02:17:24,430 --> 02:17:21,740 developed a k2 meter I didn't even 2848 02:17:25,750 --> 02:17:24,440 realize what you did and because he's 2849 02:17:27,040 --> 02:17:25,760 the one who pointed out to me that radio 2850 02:17:28,390 --> 02:17:27,050 frequency interference was the same as 2851 02:17:31,690 --> 02:17:28,400 electromagnetic interference so I'm like 2852 02:17:33,640 --> 02:17:31,700 holy creepy so we took that software and 2853 02:17:35,980 --> 02:17:33,650 they're now using it across the board 2854 02:17:37,810 --> 02:17:35,990 and the paranormal world I don't even 2855 02:17:41,820 --> 02:17:37,820 using my software I'm some of those TV 2856 02:17:46,360 --> 02:17:41,830 shows that you see now so is this proof 2857 02:17:49,419 --> 02:17:46,370 proof that there are parallel worlds and 2858 02:17:51,129 --> 02:17:49,429 there is stuff around us right now that 2859 02:17:55,089 --> 02:17:51,139 we can't see that is trying to 2860 02:17:58,330 --> 02:17:55,099 communicate with us in a paranormal 2861 02:18:02,020 --> 02:17:58,340 discussion the answer is yes and a you 2862 02:18:07,570 --> 02:18:02,030 falafels discussion i can't definitively 2863 02:18:09,280 --> 02:18:07,580 say affirmative I can't but for some 2864 02:18:12,400 --> 02:18:09,290 reason in a parent when you're having 2865 02:18:15,129 --> 02:18:12,410 the paranormal discussion and you have a 2866 02:18:17,770 --> 02:18:15,139 guy like Steve Huff at a haunted 2867 02:18:19,930 --> 02:18:17,780 location asking pertinent asking 2868 02:18:21,790 --> 02:18:19,940 questions that are pertinent to the 2869 02:18:25,150 --> 02:18:21,800 history of the location and he's getting 2870 02:18:28,360 --> 02:18:25,160 direct responses right and full-blown 2871 02:18:31,060 --> 02:18:28,370 English right yes the answer is yes I 2872 02:18:31,810 --> 02:18:31,070 can't explain it but I know that I was 2873 02:18:34,480 --> 02:18:31,820 able to build the 2874 02:18:37,320 --> 02:18:34,490 to help employee that you know the 2875 02:18:40,870 --> 02:18:37,330 communication within that moment in 2876 02:18:43,209 --> 02:18:40,880 those types of situations just using 2877 02:18:45,970 --> 02:18:43,219 pure science math and and scientific 2878 02:18:49,680 --> 02:18:45,980 principle period that's all I do 2879 02:18:53,169 --> 02:18:49,690 wait what what did you hear at area 51 2880 02:18:56,850 --> 02:18:53,179 so at the time this was what mm at the 2881 02:19:00,160 --> 02:18:56,860 end of 2011 the beginning of 2012 I 2882 02:19:05,260 --> 02:19:00,170 didn't I wasn't using words at that time 2883 02:19:07,510 --> 02:19:05,270 I didn't use I had like I would have 2884 02:19:09,490 --> 02:19:07,520 like a database of like 3,000 words you 2885 02:19:11,560 --> 02:19:09,500 know that I would you know use for the 2886 02:19:13,330 --> 02:19:11,570 frequencies and the signal strains I 2887 02:19:14,589 --> 02:19:13,340 wasn't doing that at the time you know 2888 02:19:17,470 --> 02:19:14,599 what I was doing I was using carrier 2889 02:19:21,030 --> 02:19:17,480 signals so I had all these carrier 2890 02:19:23,500 --> 02:19:21,040 signal signals from you know radio and 2891 02:19:27,040 --> 02:19:23,510 some of them feel like antiquated stuff 2892 02:19:28,990 --> 02:19:27,050 from way back and I chopped them up into 2893 02:19:31,379 --> 02:19:29,000 these micro pieces so I was getting 2894 02:19:34,299 --> 02:19:31,389 strange like clicking sounds in 2895 02:19:36,339 --> 02:19:34,309 repetitive patterns that would come and 2896 02:19:37,690 --> 02:19:36,349 then they would disappear an hour later 2897 02:19:39,879 --> 02:19:37,700 they would come back up again 2898 02:19:43,770 --> 02:19:39,889 it was clickings that it was sounded 2899 02:19:46,990 --> 02:19:43,780 like they were communicating using like 2900 02:19:51,100 --> 02:19:47,000 question and answer yeah it was the 2901 02:19:52,990 --> 02:19:51,110 strangest thing and I need to you know 2902 02:19:56,620 --> 02:19:53,000 what I need to do Jimmy is I need to 2903 02:20:00,430 --> 02:19:56,630 write it's now what six years later I 2904 02:20:02,770 --> 02:20:00,440 need to write software utilizing the 2905 02:20:05,920 --> 02:20:02,780 newest technologies that I have devised 2906 02:20:08,380 --> 02:20:05,930 over the years and go back to area 51 2907 02:20:10,450 --> 02:20:08,390 and maybe I'll write an application that 2908 02:20:12,850 --> 02:20:10,460 anybody can use in the youthful article 2909 02:20:15,250 --> 02:20:12,860 you know research field you know hey if 2910 02:20:16,750 --> 02:20:15,260 you want to go to places like skinwalker 2911 02:20:18,730 --> 02:20:16,760 ranch and you want to see if there are 2912 02:20:21,040 --> 02:20:18,740 patterns that are merged you think that 2913 02:20:23,920 --> 02:20:21,050 they may be discussing on they mean they 2914 02:20:27,190 --> 02:20:23,930 may be having conversations and the 2915 02:20:29,670 --> 02:20:27,200 ultra-high frequency it's possible the 2916 02:20:32,890 --> 02:20:29,680 reason why I did that was because of 2917 02:20:34,830 --> 02:20:32,900 Paul bennewitz Paul bennewitz seen the 2918 02:20:39,130 --> 02:20:34,840 Paul bennewitz claimed to have 2919 02:20:40,900 --> 02:20:39,140 intercepted radiation signals and 2920 02:20:43,120 --> 02:20:40,910 communication coming from Dulce the 2921 02:20:45,081 --> 02:20:43,130 Dulce base right so that's where that's 2922 02:20:48,520 --> 02:20:45,091 where that inspiration came from 2923 02:20:53,171 --> 02:20:48,530 what you need is this idea this concept 2924 02:20:55,791 --> 02:20:53,181 if it was tied into a Nightwatch 2925 02:20:59,031 --> 02:20:55,801 situation like he said he or wherever 2926 02:21:00,980 --> 02:20:59,041 you have a group of people together and 2927 02:21:03,531 --> 02:21:00,990 we've got you know night-vision goggles 2928 02:21:05,451 --> 02:21:03,541 and something is you know the some are 2929 02:21:06,770 --> 02:21:05,461 flashing whatever it is you know it's 2930 02:21:10,761 --> 02:21:06,780 not there and obviously there's 2931 02:21:12,051 --> 02:21:10,771 something going on at that moment that's 2932 02:21:16,570 --> 02:21:12,061 when you need to be running that 2933 02:21:19,041 --> 02:21:16,580 software right at that moment right I 2934 02:21:20,570 --> 02:21:19,051 should I think I should do that you know 2935 02:21:23,451 --> 02:21:20,580 I've had people say hey whatever 2936 02:21:25,820 --> 02:21:23,461 happened to that prototype app and I was 2937 02:21:27,801 --> 02:21:25,830 like well you know that the main the the 2938 02:21:31,161 --> 02:21:27,811 core of that app is now in these 2939 02:21:33,831 --> 02:21:31,171 paranormal apps but the technology came 2940 02:21:37,940 --> 02:21:33,841 about because of research that I wanted 2941 02:21:42,440 --> 02:21:37,950 to do at area 51 right okay so what's 2942 02:21:49,570 --> 02:21:42,450 your Twitter handle it is UFO highway 2943 02:21:56,211 --> 02:21:53,720 Lavar right there boom done I'm tweeting 2944 02:21:58,100 --> 02:21:56,221 out a Rita's picture right now she just 2945 02:22:00,140 --> 02:21:58,110 got to it awesome 2946 02:22:03,650 --> 02:22:00,150 okay you have to check this out 2947 02:22:05,871 --> 02:22:03,660 everybody just check out the image ever 2948 02:22:10,520 --> 02:22:05,881 it's it's gotten retweeted now Anthony 2949 02:22:17,001 --> 02:22:10,530 opened that up yeah cool you're new I'll 2950 02:22:21,711 --> 02:22:17,011 check that out that is one frame of a 2951 02:22:24,621 --> 02:22:21,721 digital now I want to stress with 2952 02:22:26,480 --> 02:22:24,631 everybody all of the thousands of 2953 02:22:30,081 --> 02:22:26,490 pictures that read it has taken before 2954 02:22:34,341 --> 02:22:30,091 and cents on both sides of this image 2955 02:22:37,161 --> 02:22:34,351 are perfect this one image at that 2956 02:22:42,970 --> 02:22:37,171 moment this is what was taken and it's 2957 02:22:47,930 --> 02:22:42,980 just it's it's it's it's bizarre yeah 2958 02:22:50,541 --> 02:22:47,940 that's crazy in it I look at this and I 2959 02:22:53,650 --> 02:22:50,551 get sucked into it look at the shadows 2960 02:22:58,400 --> 02:22:53,660 and and the black line that goes down 2961 02:23:00,170 --> 02:22:58,410 and the way that it is almost as if the 2962 02:23:03,500 --> 02:23:00,180 inside of the picture is in the dark 2963 02:23:05,110 --> 02:23:03,510 what I was saying it's it's it's it's 2964 02:23:08,420 --> 02:23:05,120 bizarre 2965 02:23:11,210 --> 02:23:08,430 another strange is an adventure yeah and 2966 02:23:14,091 --> 02:23:11,220 look at the top that is that's supposed 2967 02:23:17,180 --> 02:23:14,101 to say ad rahmatan and drum it in you in 2968 02:23:19,490 --> 02:23:17,190 one straight perfect line and then it 2969 02:23:23,060 --> 02:23:19,500 just goes all haywire but something 2970 02:23:25,100 --> 02:23:23,070 happened huh and that's at East Eddy you 2971 02:23:28,730 --> 02:23:25,110 know there could have been some sort of 2972 02:23:31,250 --> 02:23:28,740 you know electrical signals or or or 2973 02:23:34,490 --> 02:23:31,260 excuse me um there could have been some 2974 02:23:36,500 --> 02:23:34,500 type of electromagnetic interference 2975 02:23:39,620 --> 02:23:36,510 happening at the time something from 2976 02:23:44,210 --> 02:23:39,630 that particular spot remember he said he 2977 02:23:46,881 --> 02:23:44,220 is weird but it's strange it is all that 2978 02:23:50,091 --> 02:23:46,891 and a bag of chips and and you know and 2979 02:23:53,060 --> 02:23:50,101 I look at this image every single time I 2980 02:23:56,091 --> 02:23:53,070 was there at that moment we had just 2981 02:23:58,370 --> 02:23:56,101 finished a ceremony in the middle of the 2982 02:24:00,620 --> 02:23:58,380 Medicine Wheel and you know strange 2983 02:24:02,570 --> 02:24:00,630 things are going on you know and and so 2984 02:24:05,860 --> 02:24:02,580 anyway so Rita runs around she's taking 2985 02:24:08,150 --> 02:24:05,870 pictures and she showed this to me about 2986 02:24:10,250 --> 02:24:08,160 fifteen minutes later a half hour later 2987 02:24:13,310 --> 02:24:10,260 and I'm looking at it and I know the 2988 02:24:15,320 --> 02:24:13,320 moment that it was taken and I'm telling 2989 02:24:17,360 --> 02:24:15,330 you this this picture sucks me in I 2990 02:24:20,570 --> 02:24:17,370 don't know what to make of it I don't 2991 02:24:24,051 --> 02:24:20,580 know what it is I definitely think it's 2992 02:24:27,051 --> 02:24:24,061 two worlds though and they look as james 2993 02:24:29,890 --> 02:24:27,061 gilliland if anyone else has ever had 2994 02:24:32,301 --> 02:24:29,900 that type of an anomalous photograph 2995 02:24:35,240 --> 02:24:32,311 happened just out of the clear clear 2996 02:24:37,580 --> 02:24:35,250 blue in that cool mm-hmm that is just an 2997 02:24:41,060 --> 02:24:37,590 incredible picture so what's up what's 2998 02:24:43,761 --> 02:24:41,070 up next for you what are you doing with 2999 02:24:46,810 --> 02:24:43,771 is there another book are you gonna be 3000 02:24:50,000 --> 02:24:46,820 doing any speaking are you just gonna 3001 02:24:51,860 --> 02:24:50,010 George Norris beyond belief show oh 3002 02:24:54,370 --> 02:24:51,870 that's right that's right how'd that go 3003 02:24:57,170 --> 02:24:54,380 it went great it went great we had a 3004 02:25:00,230 --> 02:24:57,180 really nice discussion you know none 3005 02:25:01,631 --> 02:25:00,240 like the one that we're having but we 3006 02:25:04,730 --> 02:25:01,641 really went into the Morse 3007 02:25:08,180 --> 02:25:04,740 conspiratorial side on that show and 3008 02:25:09,950 --> 02:25:08,190 then I was also on Jay Wyden show called 3009 02:25:11,381 --> 02:25:09,960 deep space and I guess that'll be coming 3010 02:25:13,961 --> 02:25:11,391 out eventually 3011 02:25:15,551 --> 02:25:13,971 also part of the guy in network so I do 3012 02:25:18,461 --> 02:25:15,561 have another book that's in the works 3013 02:25:22,180 --> 02:25:18,471 and it has a bunch of cool information 3014 02:25:24,280 --> 02:25:22,190 and I you know I ended up pulling a lot 3015 02:25:26,640 --> 02:25:24,290 of the writings from that book for our 3016 02:25:30,520 --> 02:25:26,650 discussion that we had tonight on the 3017 02:25:32,171 --> 02:25:30,530 interdimensional aspect so I cover that 3018 02:25:35,261 --> 02:25:32,181 in the book I cover you know I go back 3019 02:25:38,230 --> 02:25:35,271 and revisit Dulce I go back and talk 3020 02:25:39,520 --> 02:25:38,240 about area 51 in the whole human origins 3021 02:25:42,310 --> 02:25:39,530 aspect because that's really where I 3022 02:25:44,171 --> 02:25:42,320 began a lot of my research on you know 3023 02:25:48,421 --> 02:25:44,181 most people don't realize it but my book 3024 02:25:52,930 --> 02:25:48,431 UFO highway has an incredible section on 3025 02:25:54,671 --> 02:25:52,940 human origins and you know you know even 3026 02:25:58,091 --> 02:25:54,681 as Scottie Roberts who had intrepid 3027 02:25:59,980 --> 02:25:58,101 magazine once it was a long time ago he 3028 02:26:02,850 --> 02:25:59,990 utilized practically that whole section 3029 02:26:05,770 --> 02:26:02,860 for the inaugural edition of the 3030 02:26:09,370 --> 02:26:05,780 intrepid magazine and I ended up one 3031 02:26:12,310 --> 02:26:09,380 name I had a I was interviewed by 3032 02:26:15,461 --> 02:26:12,320 Prometheus Entertainment for ancient 3033 02:26:16,780 --> 02:26:15,471 aliens right and my interview didn't 3034 02:26:18,461 --> 02:26:16,790 make it onto the show because there was 3035 02:26:21,280 --> 02:26:18,471 you know so much that they wanted to 3036 02:26:23,261 --> 02:26:21,290 compress into that one episode it's the 3037 02:26:24,400 --> 02:26:23,271 erich von daniken legacy but I ended up 3038 02:26:28,780 --> 02:26:24,410 on the show anyway which was kind of 3039 02:26:31,870 --> 02:26:28,790 cool and the human origins aspect is 3040 02:26:34,660 --> 02:26:31,880 really good stuff in I want to expand on 3041 02:26:39,660 --> 02:26:34,670 that if I can so I had an idea for 3042 02:26:44,711 --> 02:26:39,670 another book it was not going to be as 3043 02:26:47,381 --> 02:26:44,721 as as big as in long-winded is you know 3044 02:26:50,831 --> 02:26:47,391 for highway could get at times but I was 3045 02:26:54,511 --> 02:26:50,841 really gonna place a focus on bloodlines 3046 02:26:59,140 --> 02:26:54,521 of the Anunnaki and the greys and 3047 02:27:01,900 --> 02:26:59,150 alien-human hybrids and I think this is 3048 02:27:06,131 --> 02:27:01,910 I think we're going further and further 3049 02:27:08,921 --> 02:27:06,141 into this areas as you know the science 3050 02:27:11,501 --> 02:27:08,931 and the technology behind DNA and and 3051 02:27:13,180 --> 02:27:11,511 being able to trace this back we're 3052 02:27:15,520 --> 02:27:13,190 gonna find out some things that maybe 3053 02:27:17,980 --> 02:27:15,530 we're not so comfortable with you know 3054 02:27:22,060 --> 02:27:17,990 we want to if we want to say that DNA is 3055 02:27:24,070 --> 02:27:22,070 the end-all be-all in an identifier in 3056 02:27:24,850 --> 02:27:24,080 our own human history well then if you 3057 02:27:26,801 --> 02:27:24,860 want to go with 3058 02:27:29,801 --> 02:27:26,811 near feel comfortable with that well the 3059 02:27:31,750 --> 02:27:29,811 answers that were about to get we're not 3060 02:27:34,450 --> 02:27:31,760 going to be so comfortable with you know 3061 02:27:38,110 --> 02:27:34,460 what I mean Jesse what I mean what if 3062 02:27:42,130 --> 02:27:38,120 you know some meteor meteorite lands 3063 02:27:45,540 --> 02:27:42,140 here we were able to trace some bacteria 3064 02:27:49,570 --> 02:27:45,550 on this and there's DNA there and and 3065 02:27:52,060 --> 02:27:49,580 it's suddenly right right you know I 3066 02:27:54,190 --> 02:27:52,070 think we need to be be out we really 3067 02:27:57,011 --> 02:27:54,200 need to be prepared for that why don't 3068 02:27:59,770 --> 02:27:57,021 we find micro you know organisms on Mars 3069 02:28:02,500 --> 02:27:59,780 that carry a same genetic pattern that 3070 02:28:05,200 --> 02:28:02,510 we do and because the universe has to be 3071 02:28:08,440 --> 02:28:05,210 that way you know chemicals or chemicals 3072 02:28:10,810 --> 02:28:08,450 that that's it man carbon here is carbon 3073 02:28:12,520 --> 02:28:10,820 there did you hear about the theory that 3074 02:28:14,610 --> 02:28:12,530 just came out this last week the thing 3075 02:28:18,220 --> 02:28:14,620 now believed that the moon at one point 3076 02:28:20,770 --> 02:28:18,230 had a potential atmosphere and water in 3077 02:28:23,140 --> 02:28:20,780 the air yes yes yes I just read that and 3078 02:28:24,850 --> 02:28:23,150 Hank you know fascinating the moon has 3079 02:28:28,090 --> 02:28:24,860 an atmosphere now don't kid yourself 3080 02:28:29,680 --> 02:28:28,100 thank you so much Anthony thank you 3081 02:28:31,360 --> 02:28:29,690 Jimmy and thank you really you guys are 3082 02:28:32,920 --> 02:28:31,370 incredible and I love coming on your 3083 02:28:34,660 --> 02:28:32,930 show so thank you so much I really 3084 02:28:36,610 --> 02:28:34,670 appreciate it I'm truly grateful yeah 3085 02:28:39,910 --> 02:28:36,620 and be safe up there these fires are no 3086 02:28:42,460 --> 02:28:39,920 joke oh yeah all right Thank You Anthony 3087 02:28:45,700 --> 02:28:42,470 Sanchez everybody all of his links are 3088 02:28:46,480 --> 02:28:45,710 right there in Twitter the movie is up 3089 02:28:50,650 --> 02:28:46,490 there in Twitter 3090 02:28:52,840 --> 02:28:50,660 we've taken care of everything if you go 3091 02:28:55,030 --> 02:28:52,850 over to Jimmy Church radio com the rest 3092 02:28:58,180 --> 02:28:55,040 of Anthony's links are right over there 3093 02:29:00,190 --> 02:28:58,190 Thank You Anthony fade or not Sanchez 3094 02:29:02,710 --> 02:29:00,200 always a great conversation this is fade 3095 02:29:04,980 --> 02:29:02,720 to black all right you guys want it I 3096 02:29:08,320 --> 02:29:04,990 get it I'll open up the phone lines now 3097 02:29:24,041 --> 02:29:08,330 I'll be right back 3098 02:29:27,531 --> 02:29:24,051 [Music] 3099 02:29:32,980 --> 02:29:27,541 my boy Jimmy Church on Jimmy Church 3100 02:29:40,720 --> 02:29:32,990 radio.com despite popular opinion 3101 02:29:46,491 --> 02:29:43,310 so you went to dinner last night you had 3102 02:29:49,701 --> 02:29:46,501 your favorite pasta or maybe you had a 3103 02:29:52,520 --> 02:29:49,711 heavy spicy meal in the left you get 3104 02:29:56,690 --> 02:29:52,530 that accom maybe you mowed down a huge 3105 02:29:58,940 --> 02:29:56,700 steak and your plumbing is all plug get 3106 02:30:01,791 --> 02:29:58,950 the t-dot-com our super strength T will 3107 02:30:05,301 --> 02:30:01,801 take care of your occasional it's all 3108 02:30:07,371 --> 02:30:05,311 organic and non-gmo get rid of we have 3109 02:30:10,341 --> 02:30:07,381 so many great supplements but our super 3110 02:30:14,331 --> 02:30:10,351 T is 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I'm 3180 02:34:01,520 --> 02:33:56,640 hosting a church on the GameChanger 3181 02:34:04,670 --> 02:34:01,530 network and kg RA the planets truly 3182 02:34:06,440 --> 02:34:04,680 bespoke radio for the masses all right 3183 02:34:08,000 --> 02:34:06,450 I've opened up the phone lines you can 3184 02:34:10,910 --> 02:34:08,010 follow me on twitter IG a church radio 3185 02:34:12,260 --> 02:34:10,920 let's go through this as quickly as we 3186 02:34:13,780 --> 02:34:12,270 can high your life I'm fade to black 3187 02:34:17,060 --> 02:34:13,790 who's calling 3188 02:34:19,820 --> 02:34:17,070 hey Jimmy Damian from a little hey 3189 02:34:22,670 --> 02:34:19,830 Damien how are you man 3190 02:34:24,500 --> 02:34:22,680 I'm doing well great so Jimmy and you 3191 02:34:28,250 --> 02:34:24,510 know why I'm getting these really 3192 02:34:29,440 --> 02:34:28,260 positive vibes things are about to 3193 02:34:31,730 --> 02:34:29,450 change 3194 02:34:33,110 --> 02:34:31,740 I'm getting a good feeling about this 3195 02:34:35,570 --> 02:34:33,120 Jimmy and let me 3196 02:34:41,510 --> 02:34:35,580 I've always wanted to ask you this what 3197 02:34:43,969 --> 02:34:41,520 do you think is uh if I had a really 3198 02:34:46,460 --> 02:34:43,979 broad question what do you think is 3199 02:34:47,690 --> 02:34:46,470 really going on and the direction 3200 02:34:50,389 --> 02:34:47,700 whether we're heading 3201 02:34:54,200 --> 02:34:50,399 what do you work what can you tell me 3202 02:34:57,590 --> 02:34:54,210 about that Jimmy well my take is well I 3203 02:35:00,770 --> 02:34:57,600 say this a lot Damian and I mean this 3204 02:35:04,130 --> 02:35:00,780 that science and in our world are 3205 02:35:06,860 --> 02:35:04,140 starting to collide here and there's 3206 02:35:09,290 --> 02:35:06,870 going to be once one thing breaks 3207 02:35:12,440 --> 02:35:09,300 whether it is parallel worlds or or 3208 02:35:15,469 --> 02:35:12,450 quantum computing or fast radio bursts 3209 02:35:18,040 --> 02:35:15,479 you know something is gonna break and 3210 02:35:20,830 --> 02:35:18,050 when it does all the dominoes fall 3211 02:35:24,080 --> 02:35:20,840 because if one thing is prime then 3212 02:35:29,510 --> 02:35:24,090 everything is is gonna break loose 3213 02:35:32,179 --> 02:35:29,520 that's my piece do you feel I have this 3214 02:35:34,130 --> 02:35:32,189 feeling Jimmy that something's coming 3215 02:35:36,889 --> 02:35:34,140 and I'm pretty sure you feeling the same 3216 02:35:39,740 --> 02:35:36,899 thing I don't know what it is but it 3217 02:35:43,490 --> 02:35:39,750 it's like a positive thing I have really 3218 02:35:46,040 --> 02:35:43,500 good vibes about this and I know you 3219 02:35:49,099 --> 02:35:46,050 know what I'm talking about I do I do it 3220 02:35:53,570 --> 02:35:49,109 and I I can I can feel it I can see it 3221 02:35:55,639 --> 02:35:53,580 I'm enjoying it and it's gonna break man 3222 02:35:58,580 --> 02:35:55,649 it's gonna break and when it does it's 3223 02:36:01,130 --> 02:35:58,590 gonna be fun and we're gonna have the 3224 02:36:02,990 --> 02:36:01,140 last laugh but then again we need to be 3225 02:36:05,930 --> 02:36:03,000 ready for it and come 3226 02:36:06,980 --> 02:36:05,940 trouble with what we find out oh I don't 3227 02:36:11,360 --> 02:36:06,990 know what it's gonna be 3228 02:36:16,160 --> 02:36:11,370 right you know III really don't and and 3229 02:36:19,010 --> 02:36:16,170 yeah and it's it might not be so to 3230 02:36:20,900 --> 02:36:19,020 those like you know we're open to be 3231 02:36:22,970 --> 02:36:20,910 like me and you and a lot of the 3232 02:36:26,630 --> 02:36:22,980 fairness are open to people that are not 3233 02:36:29,270 --> 02:36:26,640 am I bring a little bit of I don't know 3234 02:36:31,910 --> 02:36:29,280 confusion to the world but like I said 3235 02:36:33,620 --> 02:36:31,920 that the other end it's I don't know 3236 02:36:35,390 --> 02:36:33,630 it's we've we've gone through a 3237 02:36:37,970 --> 02:36:35,400 transition and I think it's gonna be 3238 02:36:41,030 --> 02:36:37,980 good at the end Jimmy and it will be 3239 02:36:44,000 --> 02:36:41,040 waiting for it yep yep yep and it's it 3240 02:36:45,710 --> 02:36:44,010 and we're getting close and thinking I 3241 02:36:47,000 --> 02:36:45,720 know we are yeah thank you for the phone 3242 02:36:48,640 --> 02:36:47,010 call my friend and be safe out there 3243 02:36:53,570 --> 02:36:48,650 we'll see you tomorrow night all right 3244 02:36:57,170 --> 02:36:53,580 and thank you so much I firmly believe 3245 02:37:00,230 --> 02:36:57,180 you know I can tell that there's 3246 02:37:03,590 --> 02:37:00,240 something going on you know when you go 3247 02:37:06,920 --> 02:37:03,600 out and and see this stuff and you know 3248 02:37:08,540 --> 02:37:06,930 right all of the video that is happening 3249 02:37:10,610 --> 02:37:08,550 and and everything else that's going on 3250 02:37:12,920 --> 02:37:10,620 it's just it's a really cool moment in 3251 02:37:14,240 --> 02:37:12,930 time let's go back to the phones hi 3252 02:37:18,080 --> 02:37:14,250 you're live on fade to black who's 3253 02:37:21,440 --> 02:37:18,090 calling Debbie from Sacramento hi Debbie 3254 02:37:23,450 --> 02:37:21,450 from Sacramento how are you happy 3255 02:37:29,420 --> 02:37:23,460 birthday Jimmy Church yeah thank you so 3256 02:37:31,670 --> 02:37:29,430 much Deb thank you so much 29 you know 3257 02:37:34,430 --> 02:37:31,680 spending it with the fate or not and and 3258 02:37:36,340 --> 02:37:34,440 having a good time on the show is the 3259 02:37:39,620 --> 02:37:36,350 best way to do it and I do know that 3260 02:37:43,580 --> 02:37:39,630 once I shut down the bunker that Rita 3261 02:37:45,590 --> 02:37:43,590 made some amazing barbecue shredded 3262 02:37:48,140 --> 02:37:45,600 barbecue chicken so that's what we're 3263 02:37:49,910 --> 02:37:48,150 gonna do we're gonna get home and and 3264 02:37:53,720 --> 02:37:49,920 make some sandwiches so there you go 3265 02:37:55,840 --> 02:37:53,730 that's what we do thank you so much 3266 02:38:00,620 --> 02:37:55,850 deputy safe we'll see you tomorrow night 3267 02:38:02,270 --> 02:38:00,630 you too bye-bye bye-bye and let's go 3268 02:38:04,760 --> 02:38:02,280 back to the phones hi you're live on 3269 02:38:07,790 --> 02:38:04,770 fade to black who's calling hello 3270 02:38:09,320 --> 02:38:07,800 Frankie Frankie that's me it's Franky 3271 02:38:10,970 --> 02:38:09,330 four fingers how you doing Jimmy hey 3272 02:38:14,390 --> 02:38:10,980 Frankie how are you my friend 3273 02:38:16,490 --> 02:38:14,400 oh just trying to relax after last week 3274 02:38:16,940 --> 02:38:16,500 it was a pretty ordeal that we had to 3275 02:38:18,650 --> 02:38:16,950 deal with 3276 02:38:21,470 --> 02:38:18,660 but I'm gonna wish you a happy birthday 3277 02:38:23,210 --> 02:38:21,480 Thank You Frankie and give my best to 3278 02:38:25,430 --> 02:38:23,220 the family up there and I saw your tweet 3279 02:38:30,921 --> 02:38:25,440 earlier you have me broadcasting in 3280 02:38:33,020 --> 02:38:30,931 every room so thank you for you we're 3281 02:38:35,301 --> 02:38:33,030 taxing out our you know our weak 3282 02:38:39,310 --> 02:38:35,311 internet service we got out here in the 3283 02:38:41,870 --> 02:38:39,320 rural area and it's it's working so far 3284 02:38:44,900 --> 02:38:41,880 thank you so much and I saw the picture 3285 02:38:48,650 --> 02:38:44,910 of the poster very very cool I can't 3286 02:38:50,810 --> 02:38:48,660 wait to get ours oh it turned out very 3287 02:38:54,591 --> 02:38:50,820 very nice and Eric did an awesome job 3288 02:38:56,120 --> 02:38:54,601 and put it out for him and I hope you 3289 02:38:59,540 --> 02:38:56,130 have a good evening and try to relax 3290 02:39:01,160 --> 02:38:59,550 like I'm trying to do absolutely Frankie 3291 02:39:05,210 --> 02:39:01,170 and again give my best to Susan there 3292 02:39:07,040 --> 02:39:05,220 and okay we'll do you have a great week 3293 02:39:09,591 --> 02:39:07,050 you too thank you so much Franky Franky 3294 02:39:13,100 --> 02:39:09,601 four fingers right there Frankie the one 3295 02:39:15,261 --> 02:39:13,110 that discovered the the door up on Mount 3296 02:39:19,430 --> 02:39:15,271 Adams high your life on fade to black 3297 02:39:22,160 --> 02:39:19,440 who's calling hey Jimmy it's mark from 3298 02:39:22,820 --> 02:39:22,170 Mexico hey Mark from Mexico how are you 3299 02:39:26,421 --> 02:39:22,830 my friend 3300 02:39:29,180 --> 02:39:26,431 oh great Jimmy thank you man how are you 3301 02:39:31,700 --> 02:39:29,190 doing it's you know it's a it's always a 3302 02:39:38,750 --> 02:39:31,710 great night on the show it's my birthday 3303 02:39:43,131 --> 02:39:38,760 woohoo that's why you were calling in 3304 02:39:44,180 --> 02:39:43,141 come on mark don't play with me so 3305 02:39:45,890 --> 02:39:44,190 what'd you think of the show tonight 3306 02:39:50,000 --> 02:39:45,900 what did you think of the show tonight 3307 02:39:51,320 --> 02:39:50,010 with Anthony Sanchez wonderful guest 3308 02:39:53,750 --> 02:39:51,330 wonderful show 3309 02:39:56,450 --> 02:39:53,760 wonderful job interviewing him was just 3310 02:39:59,990 --> 02:39:56,460 it was really great I really enjoyed it 3311 02:40:02,960 --> 02:40:00,000 thank you yeah and thank you for that go 3312 02:40:09,591 --> 02:40:02,970 ahead go ahead okay 3313 02:40:11,660 --> 02:40:09,601 so I moved to Mexico about three months 3314 02:40:16,360 --> 02:40:11,670 ago and you know I'm a true believer 3315 02:40:19,280 --> 02:40:16,370 right I don't need to see any UFOs or 3316 02:40:22,551 --> 02:40:19,290 you know I'm not a life experience or 3317 02:40:26,120 --> 02:40:22,561 none of that right right but a couple of 3318 02:40:29,780 --> 02:40:26,130 nights ago I woke I'm calling because I 3319 02:40:30,680 --> 02:40:29,790 like I totally get what happened to you 3320 02:40:33,350 --> 02:40:30,690 when you went to 3321 02:40:36,171 --> 02:40:33,360 said he because it happened to me the 3322 02:40:38,570 --> 02:40:36,181 other night and this place must be 3323 02:40:42,680 --> 02:40:38,580 magical or something because I I've 3324 02:40:45,110 --> 02:40:42,690 never wanted to see UFOs before but 3325 02:40:47,450 --> 02:40:45,120 about a week ago I went outside and I 3326 02:40:51,530 --> 02:40:47,460 said okay I'm ready you know I said it 3327 02:40:54,051 --> 02:40:51,540 out loud and that night there was like 3328 02:40:56,591 --> 02:40:54,061 these dancing orbs about a dozen of them 3329 02:40:59,930 --> 02:40:56,601 all over the quarter of the sky 3330 02:41:01,970 --> 02:40:59,940 it was unbelievable they formed into a 3331 02:41:05,360 --> 02:41:01,980 triangle then they go to the edge of 3332 02:41:07,610 --> 02:41:05,370 another cloud and coalesce into one and 3333 02:41:11,570 --> 02:41:07,620 this went on for like half an hour and 3334 02:41:14,570 --> 02:41:11,580 then I saw a star a star sized light go 3335 02:41:17,621 --> 02:41:14,580 like halfway across the sky another 3336 02:41:21,801 --> 02:41:17,631 night and two nights ago I saw a 3337 02:41:24,711 --> 02:41:21,811 triangle just I didn't see a ship but I 3338 02:41:27,621 --> 02:41:24,721 saw these like three lights with 3339 02:41:30,051 --> 02:41:27,631 distinct edges in a triangle and it just 3340 02:41:34,461 --> 02:41:30,061 like I just like look straight up it 3341 02:41:37,421 --> 02:41:34,471 went from like 90 degrees like a quarter 3342 02:41:41,720 --> 02:41:37,431 of the way off you know across the sky 3343 02:41:44,871 --> 02:41:41,730 maybe 45 50 degrees and Jimmy I held up 3344 02:41:47,450 --> 02:41:44,881 my my arm and this thing was as big as 3345 02:41:50,030 --> 02:41:47,460 my thumb man and the freakiest thing 3346 02:41:54,621 --> 02:41:50,040 about it was that it was silent and this 3347 02:41:58,251 --> 02:41:54,631 was our what part of Mexico I'm in a 3348 02:42:00,501 --> 02:41:58,261 town called San Miguel de Allende it's 3349 02:42:04,070 --> 02:42:00,511 about four hours north of Mexico City 3350 02:42:07,131 --> 02:42:04,080 okay okay and there are a lot of expats 3351 02:42:10,430 --> 02:42:07,141 here it's a really beautiful place it's 3352 02:42:12,320 --> 02:42:10,440 a pretty cool place but I've heard that 3353 02:42:14,390 --> 02:42:12,330 it's like a magical place not oh no man 3354 02:42:16,400 --> 02:42:14,400 it was it was but I had the same feeling 3355 02:42:18,501 --> 02:42:16,410 that you described when you came back 3356 02:42:20,661 --> 02:42:18,511 from these Teddy wings I actually saw 3357 02:42:23,001 --> 02:42:20,671 one for the first time like I believe 3358 02:42:29,421 --> 02:42:23,011 but you know I don't need no stinking 3359 02:42:31,280 --> 02:42:29,431 badges yeah exactly that's the best part 3360 02:42:34,850 --> 02:42:31,290 about it mark I want to thank you for 3361 02:42:37,220 --> 02:42:34,860 the phone call my friend and be saved 3362 02:42:40,970 --> 02:42:37,230 Mexico is a magical place but the 3363 02:42:44,090 --> 02:42:40,980 beautiful thing when it happens to you 3364 02:42:47,710 --> 02:42:44,100 for the first time that is the MoMA 3365 02:42:50,809 --> 02:42:47,720 where you realize that there is 3366 02:42:55,070 --> 02:42:50,819 something else to this world there's 3367 02:42:57,530 --> 02:42:55,080 something else going on and when when 3368 02:42:59,599 --> 02:42:57,540 you deal with when you deal with 3369 02:43:02,630 --> 02:42:59,609 skeptics or you deal with people that 3370 02:43:05,479 --> 02:43:02,640 don't want to know they they just don't 3371 02:43:07,160 --> 02:43:05,489 want to know and I I don't want to go 3372 02:43:10,219 --> 02:43:07,170 through life like that there are people 3373 02:43:11,750 --> 02:43:10,229 out there that don't want to find out 3374 02:43:12,979 --> 02:43:11,760 they they don't care they don't even 3375 02:43:15,439 --> 02:43:12,989 think about it 3376 02:43:18,679 --> 02:43:15,449 and living living through that closed 3377 02:43:20,570 --> 02:43:18,689 down lifestyle I mentioned this a couple 3378 02:43:21,439 --> 02:43:20,580 of weeks ago you know where you have a 3379 02:43:23,389 --> 02:43:21,449 window 3380 02:43:25,639 --> 02:43:23,399 you know that's protecting you from the 3381 02:43:27,380 --> 02:43:25,649 world you have a wall that is protecting 3382 02:43:30,260 --> 02:43:27,390 you from the world and what you don't 3383 02:43:35,170 --> 02:43:30,270 realize is you may think that you're 3384 02:43:38,059 --> 02:43:35,180 being safe right but you're not closing 3385 02:43:40,639 --> 02:43:38,069 people off from getting to you the bad 3386 02:43:42,710 --> 02:43:40,649 guys you know you're not safe behind the 3387 02:43:44,780 --> 02:43:42,720 glass you're closing yourself off from 3388 02:43:46,429 --> 02:43:44,790 everything else and I don't want to go 3389 02:43:48,939 --> 02:43:46,439 through life like that but there are 3390 02:43:53,059 --> 02:43:48,949 people out there that actually do and 3391 02:43:55,760 --> 02:43:53,069 when this type of thing happens to you 3392 02:43:58,790 --> 02:43:55,770 or to them for the first time it's a 3393 02:44:00,139 --> 02:43:58,800 life changer it's an absolute life 3394 02:44:03,189 --> 02:44:00,149 changer let's go to the phones hi your 3395 02:44:08,630 --> 02:44:03,199 life on fade to black who's calling 3396 02:44:12,200 --> 02:44:08,640 you're live my wife yeah you're live 3397 02:44:14,960 --> 02:44:12,210 right now hey Jimmy it's Shane out from 3398 02:44:18,590 --> 02:44:14,970 the VCD yesterday oh oh hey Shane how 3399 02:44:21,530 --> 02:44:18,600 are you man good show yeah I love this 3400 02:44:24,080 --> 02:44:21,540 show tonight and I want Anthony you know 3401 02:44:25,130 --> 02:44:24,090 that he's not alone in that a lot of my 3402 02:44:26,359 --> 02:44:25,140 information has come from the 3403 02:44:32,210 --> 02:44:26,369 stratosphere if you know what I mean 3404 02:44:34,910 --> 02:44:32,220 right the energies that be are very 3405 02:44:36,679 --> 02:44:34,920 dynamic in the human brain I can 3406 02:44:42,109 --> 02:44:36,689 actually send you that information too 3407 02:44:44,960 --> 02:44:42,119 to kind of you know factual eyes certain 3408 02:44:48,320 --> 02:44:44,970 things where my buddies actually found 3409 02:44:52,219 --> 02:44:48,330 out there's a heater scientist down 3410 02:44:54,349 --> 02:44:52,229 there in Colorado and he was saying that 3411 02:44:56,780 --> 02:44:54,359 there is a note inside the human brain 3412 02:44:57,830 --> 02:44:56,790 that actually is wireless but we just 3413 02:45:00,380 --> 02:44:57,840 don't know how it happened 3414 02:45:02,990 --> 02:45:00,390 to it and what Anthony said all tonight 3415 02:45:06,250 --> 02:45:03,000 was very interesting I really want him 3416 02:45:09,679 --> 02:45:06,260 to really go forth with what he's doing 3417 02:45:13,580 --> 02:45:09,689 yeah he's one of the best Shane and the 3418 02:45:15,469 --> 02:45:13,590 thing is is he had the vision and the 3419 02:45:18,020 --> 02:45:15,479 ability to pull it off to be able to 3420 02:45:22,400 --> 02:45:18,030 write code and and know what software 3421 02:45:25,520 --> 02:45:22,410 can do also the audio side in and how to 3422 02:45:27,860 --> 02:45:25,530 treat audio signals so he had all of 3423 02:45:29,870 --> 02:45:27,870 that going form and to develop the 3424 02:45:33,800 --> 02:45:29,880 software and have the vision to go 3425 02:45:35,380 --> 02:45:33,810 through to to try to make contact it's 3426 02:45:38,810 --> 02:45:35,390 extraordinary the software is 3427 02:45:42,170 --> 02:45:38,820 mind-blowing and you should go visit his 3428 02:45:48,740 --> 02:45:42,180 his site and I do want to encourage him 3429 02:45:51,530 --> 02:45:48,750 to to to try and tap into possible et 3430 02:45:53,540 --> 02:45:51,540 contact you know and to find out if they 3431 02:45:55,610 --> 02:45:53,550 are communicating with us because at the 3432 02:45:57,530 --> 02:45:55,620 moment of a sighting you know and it's 3433 02:46:00,230 --> 02:45:57,540 going on it's going down and you're 3434 02:46:02,660 --> 02:46:00,240 looking at some type of craft plasma or 3435 02:46:04,219 --> 02:46:02,670 real or whatever and it's above you and 3436 02:46:07,550 --> 02:46:04,229 a group of people at that moment I 3437 02:46:09,770 --> 02:46:07,560 really feel that they are there to say 3438 02:46:12,740 --> 02:46:09,780 hello they're feeling the vibe man 3439 02:46:15,770 --> 02:46:12,750 they're their copy library right and at 3440 02:46:17,630 --> 02:46:15,780 that moment at that very moment when 3441 02:46:20,750 --> 02:46:17,640 they flash or they blink or they do 3442 02:46:22,310 --> 02:46:20,760 something at that very moment that's 3443 02:46:25,760 --> 02:46:22,320 when I want to know if there's 3444 02:46:27,260 --> 02:46:25,770 communication going down so I do want to 3445 02:46:30,349 --> 02:46:27,270 encourage that yeah absolutely 3446 02:46:32,090 --> 02:46:30,359 absolutely I can put you two in contact 3447 02:46:34,490 --> 02:46:32,100 to directly that's simple enough to do 3448 02:46:36,590 --> 02:46:34,500 that would be amazing cuz I love smart 3449 02:46:38,660 --> 02:46:36,600 people we we had a great show last night 3450 02:46:41,240 --> 02:46:38,670 and obviously I listened through the 3451 02:46:44,840 --> 02:46:41,250 entire show tonight and it was amazing 3452 02:46:47,000 --> 02:46:44,850 and he touched on several points of you 3453 02:46:52,160 --> 02:46:47,010 know humanity and you know signal 3454 02:46:55,670 --> 02:46:52,170 strength basically and it is true you 3455 02:46:56,990 --> 02:46:55,680 know a lot of my like mark told you in 3456 02:47:00,679 --> 02:46:57,000 the first place it you know a 3457 02:47:03,110 --> 02:47:00,689 preliminary uh you know sightings of 3458 02:47:05,960 --> 02:47:03,120 myself that came to around at the VC on 3459 02:47:08,990 --> 02:47:05,970 D and and obviously this you know 3460 02:47:11,679 --> 02:47:09,000 Anthony there are some big things going 3461 02:47:14,800 --> 02:47:11,689 on in the world and is a very 3462 02:47:18,699 --> 02:47:14,810 great time to invent and also explore 3463 02:47:21,219 --> 02:47:18,709 our own existence well that's exactly 3464 02:47:23,290 --> 02:47:21,229 yeah that's exactly the point and there 3465 02:47:25,779 --> 02:47:23,300 are big things on the horizon I can feel 3466 02:47:28,899 --> 02:47:25,789 it Shane it was a great show last night 3467 02:47:30,819 --> 02:47:28,909 and thank you for a touching base with 3468 02:47:35,199 --> 02:47:30,829 this again this evening I really 3469 02:47:37,149 --> 02:47:35,209 appreciate it and the VC MD is is going 3470 02:47:40,660 --> 02:47:37,159 places and I want to thank you for 3471 02:47:42,309 --> 02:47:40,670 allowing us to introduce that in you to 3472 02:47:44,139 --> 02:47:42,319 the world last night thank you so much 3473 02:47:46,479 --> 02:47:44,149 my friend no problem 3474 02:47:49,449 --> 02:47:46,489 Thank You Shane that's Shane Seymour the 3475 02:47:52,899 --> 02:47:49,459 VC MD from last night with mark 3476 02:47:55,870 --> 02:47:52,909 McCandlish and yeah this this software 3477 02:47:57,609 --> 02:47:55,880 of Anthony's it needs to go to the et 3478 02:47:58,899 --> 02:47:57,619 level let's go back to the phones hi 3479 02:48:02,739 --> 02:47:58,909 you're live on fade to black who's 3480 02:48:07,989 --> 02:48:02,749 calling you there Jenny yes I'm here are 3481 02:48:13,569 --> 02:48:07,999 you there happy birthday to you happy 3482 02:48:18,729 --> 02:48:13,579 birthday to you happy birthday happy 3483 02:48:27,540 --> 02:48:18,739 birthday to you Mel tormé everybody Mel 3484 02:48:32,910 --> 02:48:31,000 how you doing Scott everything good I'm 3485 02:48:36,399 --> 02:48:32,920 doing good are you ready for tomorrow 3486 02:48:40,410 --> 02:48:36,409 what's what's tomorrow oh oh oh tomorrow 3487 02:48:44,710 --> 02:48:40,420 you mean with Tom DeLonge and his stream 3488 02:48:46,300 --> 02:48:44,720 yes yeah I'm so excited I was just 3489 02:48:48,340 --> 02:48:46,310 listening I was reading something here 3490 02:48:50,769 --> 02:48:48,350 and it says that this jimson of the 3491 02:48:52,510 --> 02:48:50,779 Synod and the court of this because I 3492 02:48:55,920 --> 02:48:52,520 have come to realize that the tomorrow 3493 02:48:58,149 --> 02:48:55,930 phenomenon is curiously multifaceted 3494 02:49:00,760 --> 02:48:58,159 exasperatingly complex and appears to 3495 02:49:05,800 --> 02:49:00,770 exist both and our consensus reality and 3496 02:49:10,779 --> 02:49:05,810 in another unknown space that is crazy 3497 02:49:12,160 --> 02:49:10,789 yeah it is it is buddy what do you think 3498 02:49:15,550 --> 02:49:12,170 is going to be announced tomorrow 3499 02:49:19,330 --> 02:49:15,560 I mean Leslie Kane posted her her 3500 02:49:23,920 --> 02:49:19,340 article over at Huff Post and I don't 3501 02:49:27,939 --> 02:49:23,930 think yeah I don't think the article was 3502 02:49:29,920 --> 02:49:27,949 is focused as it could be you know I 3503 02:49:33,479 --> 02:49:29,930 just I don't know what do you think is 3504 02:49:36,519 --> 02:49:33,489 going to be revealed in the livestream 3505 02:49:38,710 --> 02:49:36,529 knowing Tom DeLonge and the person that 3506 02:49:40,300 --> 02:49:38,720 he is I don't think he's going to step 3507 02:49:42,450 --> 02:49:40,310 on the legend something's not going to 3508 02:49:44,349 --> 02:49:42,460 be presented I just feel as though 3509 02:49:46,150 --> 02:49:44,359 something's going to come out here 3510 02:49:48,849 --> 02:49:46,160 whether it's maybe not tomorrow but 3511 02:49:50,380 --> 02:49:48,859 maybe this is going to slowly get this 3512 02:49:52,809 --> 02:49:50,390 out there for people I don't think it's 3513 02:49:54,639 --> 02:49:52,819 been a risk his neck like that it's not 3514 02:49:57,939 --> 02:49:54,649 that kind of a person well I think he 3515 02:49:59,439 --> 02:49:57,949 should I did he should I think he said 3516 02:50:02,889 --> 02:49:59,449 he knows where I'm coming from 3517 02:50:04,300 --> 02:50:02,899 I can assure you I mean tomorrow's a big 3518 02:50:07,000 --> 02:50:04,310 day I don't know if he's listening to 3519 02:50:09,070 --> 02:50:07,010 the show right now but I can assure you 3520 02:50:13,380 --> 02:50:09,080 he knows my position for him which is 3521 02:50:15,939 --> 02:50:13,390 all right you've got the momentum going 3522 02:50:19,360 --> 02:50:15,949 don't listen to the people around you 3523 02:50:21,490 --> 02:50:19,370 don't listen to any advice you're go you 3524 02:50:24,000 --> 02:50:21,500 know what let it all hang out whatever 3525 02:50:28,179 --> 02:50:24,010 it is that you're sitting on right now 3526 02:50:32,380 --> 02:50:28,189 let's go we can handle it don't don't 3527 02:50:34,630 --> 02:50:32,390 drip drip drip no let's go what is it 3528 02:50:36,490 --> 02:50:34,640 that you know I want to see the videos I 3529 02:50:38,860 --> 02:50:36,500 want to see the secret information I 3530 02:50:40,510 --> 02:50:38,870 want to know about the technology I want 3531 02:50:42,280 --> 02:50:40,520 to know what you're gonna do with it I 3532 02:50:44,050 --> 02:50:42,290 want to know if you're gonna just throw 3533 02:50:46,210 --> 02:50:44,060 it out there to the world the world 3534 02:50:48,370 --> 02:50:46,220 wants to know what you're sitting on and 3535 02:50:52,510 --> 02:50:48,380 this is the reason why I say that so 3536 02:50:55,269 --> 02:50:52,520 directly he has a lot of fans and I'm 3537 02:51:00,389 --> 02:50:55,279 talking about the blink-182 fans and 3538 02:51:02,979 --> 02:51:00,399 they may believe in UFOs they may not 3539 02:51:05,530 --> 02:51:02,989 but I can assure you that the vast 3540 02:51:07,269 --> 02:51:05,540 majority of his fans don't listen to 3541 02:51:10,150 --> 02:51:07,279 this show they're not part of the UFO 3542 02:51:14,650 --> 02:51:10,160 community and and History Channel and 3543 02:51:17,469 --> 02:51:14,660 ancient aliens and and hangar 1 and all 3544 02:51:21,250 --> 02:51:17,479 of these shows have been exposing people 3545 02:51:23,019 --> 02:51:21,260 to the UFO question that are not part of 3546 02:51:25,150 --> 02:51:23,029 our community they don't hang out 3547 02:51:26,950 --> 02:51:25,160 they're not here in social media they're 3548 02:51:29,260 --> 02:51:26,960 not here in Twitter they're not hanging 3549 02:51:31,540 --> 02:51:29,270 out there Facebook and and listening to 3550 02:51:34,510 --> 02:51:31,550 this show and coast to coast and they're 3551 02:51:35,950 --> 02:51:34,520 not doing that we've exposed those 3552 02:51:38,860 --> 02:51:35,960 people to this 3553 02:51:41,530 --> 02:51:38,870 question now and and tom has been part 3554 02:51:44,920 --> 02:51:41,540 of that so what you do is you take this 3555 02:51:47,860 --> 02:51:44,930 momentum you take this thing that has 3556 02:51:50,469 --> 02:51:47,870 been done like Steven Greer and his film 3557 02:51:53,650 --> 02:51:50,479 unacknowledged which is exposing people 3558 02:51:57,310 --> 02:51:53,660 to the UFO question that have never 3559 02:52:00,850 --> 02:51:57,320 wondered about it right now let's go 3560 02:52:02,890 --> 02:52:00,860 let's go let's trap lights let's put on 3561 02:52:06,550 --> 02:52:02,900 the seatbelts let's throw this thing 3562 02:52:10,240 --> 02:52:06,560 into fourth gear push the the gas to the 3563 02:52:11,680 --> 02:52:10,250 floor and let's go we are ready for it 3564 02:52:14,230 --> 02:52:11,690 don't beat around the bush 3565 02:52:17,500 --> 02:52:14,240 don't play games don't do anything let's 3566 02:52:19,090 --> 02:52:17,510 go I had said I don't know if I sent it 3567 02:52:20,950 --> 02:52:19,100 on fade to black or coast to coast I 3568 02:52:23,740 --> 02:52:20,960 might have done it both times but I know 3569 02:52:27,490 --> 02:52:23,750 that I said this which is something very 3570 02:52:32,620 --> 02:52:27,500 simple the big announcement whatever it 3571 02:52:36,760 --> 02:52:32,630 could be right it better not be anything 3572 02:52:38,740 --> 02:52:36,770 short of where can Tom take this is he 3573 02:52:42,520 --> 02:52:38,750 going to take us on a video tour on the 3574 02:52:45,340 --> 02:52:42,530 inside of a flying saucer right is it 3575 02:52:47,410 --> 02:52:45,350 well yeah anything short of that we've 3576 02:52:50,740 --> 02:52:47,420 already heard this before we've already 3577 02:52:52,330 --> 02:52:50,750 heard it before right yeah we need we 3578 02:52:54,040 --> 02:52:52,340 need to take this thing to the next 3579 02:52:55,960 --> 02:52:54,050 level and if that's what he's sitting on 3580 02:52:58,270 --> 02:52:55,970 bring it Tom 3581 02:53:01,990 --> 02:52:58,280 that's all that I'm saying bring it 3582 02:53:03,940 --> 02:53:02,000 bring it he knows he knows my position I 3583 02:53:05,590 --> 02:53:03,950 just don't I don't want to play around I 3584 02:53:09,070 --> 02:53:05,600 don't want to play around I just I just 3585 02:53:11,080 --> 02:53:09,080 want to go I'm ready all right hey I 3586 02:53:15,940 --> 02:53:11,090 gotta get to these other phone calls my 3587 02:53:18,550 --> 02:53:15,950 friend yeah hey man all right Mel thank 3588 02:53:19,170 --> 02:53:18,560 you brother I'll talk to you thank you 3589 02:53:23,080 --> 02:53:19,180 Scott 3590 02:53:24,969 --> 02:53:23,090 some pipes 3591 02:53:26,110 --> 02:53:24,979 all right let's stay on the phones hi 3592 02:53:34,780 --> 02:53:26,120 your life I'm fade to black who's 3593 02:53:35,469 --> 02:53:34,790 calling hey Monta Mayer yeah thank you 3594 02:53:38,290 --> 02:53:35,479 my friend 3595 02:53:45,940 --> 02:53:38,300 have you guys dried out is everything 3596 02:53:47,620 --> 02:53:45,950 okay back there yeah electricity's up 3597 02:53:49,510 --> 02:53:47,630 everything's good 3598 02:54:00,160 --> 02:53:49,520 everything's back to normal in Florida a 3599 02:54:03,760 --> 02:54:00,170 lot of destruction but yeah the trees 3600 02:54:06,670 --> 02:54:03,770 were down but worried about you guys 3601 02:54:09,729 --> 02:54:06,680 over there in California yeah man fire 3602 02:54:14,410 --> 02:54:09,739 affecting you at all its Burbank is far 3603 02:54:17,769 --> 02:54:14,420 from there well see it is Anaheim is 3604 02:54:21,010 --> 02:54:17,779 about it depends on how you want to get 3605 02:54:22,870 --> 02:54:21,020 there but 45-minute Drive half hour 45 3606 02:54:26,080 --> 02:54:22,880 minute drive you know traffic so I guess 3607 02:54:28,300 --> 02:54:26,090 30 40 miles away south you can go to the 3608 02:54:31,450 --> 02:54:28,310 far side and it might get a little bit 3609 02:54:33,309 --> 02:54:31,460 further but but basically speaking it's 3610 02:54:36,760 --> 02:54:33,319 that close but the thing is the Anaheim 3611 02:54:38,349 --> 02:54:36,770 fires this is in this is in suburbia 3612 02:54:41,109 --> 02:54:38,359 this isn't well it's in the mountains 3613 02:54:46,870 --> 02:54:41,119 but they're a you know it's a densely 3614 02:54:48,609 --> 02:54:46,880 packed if the fire somehow got got into 3615 02:54:51,280 --> 02:54:48,619 those neighborhoods it would be a bad 3616 02:54:54,700 --> 02:54:51,290 scene but then what's going on up there 3617 02:54:57,969 --> 02:54:54,710 north and napa valley up in north of san 3618 02:55:01,809 --> 02:54:57,979 francisco that is out of control out of 3619 02:55:04,870 --> 02:55:01,819 control and again there's no containment 3620 02:55:06,790 --> 02:55:04,880 on either side you know it's the same 3621 02:55:08,769 --> 02:55:06,800 thing that we got to do every every year 3622 02:55:11,950 --> 02:55:08,779 when this happened we have to pray for 3623 02:55:14,200 --> 02:55:11,960 moist air we need the marine layer we 3624 02:55:17,559 --> 02:55:14,210 need rain we need all of this we don't 3625 02:55:19,660 --> 02:55:17,569 need this really really hot wind because 3626 02:55:22,510 --> 02:55:19,670 the wind is it's warm it's a warm wind 3627 02:55:26,649 --> 02:55:22,520 and it's 45 mile an hour gusts of this 3628 02:55:30,519 --> 02:55:26,659 hot wind and it's just a anyway anyway 3629 02:55:34,420 --> 02:55:30,529 we're gonna be okay it says the point is 3630 02:55:39,099 --> 02:55:34,430 might a is that with four hurricanes in 3631 02:55:41,679 --> 02:55:39,109 six weeks right earthquakes fires fires 3632 02:55:43,750 --> 02:55:41,689 in Burbank fires everywhere fires up 3633 02:55:48,070 --> 02:55:43,760 north fires and Shasta fires in 3634 02:55:50,769 --> 02:55:48,080 Washington all across the western United 3635 02:55:51,340 --> 02:55:50,779 States earthquakes the flooding around 3636 02:55:54,010 --> 02:55:51,350 the world 3637 02:55:56,559 --> 02:55:54,020 the weather has dominated the news and 3638 02:55:59,229 --> 02:55:56,569 I've never experienced anything quite 3639 02:56:01,330 --> 02:55:59,239 like this and it and just when he 3640 02:56:04,479 --> 02:56:01,340 thought it was starting to chill out 3641 02:56:06,790 --> 02:56:04,489 New Orleans gets hit by a you know a 3642 02:56:10,899 --> 02:56:06,800 hurricane and now we've got these fights 3643 02:56:15,370 --> 02:56:10,909 it's like it hasn't ended and it could 3644 02:56:18,429 --> 02:56:15,380 be worse no no next year it's gonna be 3645 02:56:20,050 --> 02:56:18,439 better hey my tape thank you so much my 3646 02:56:21,460 --> 02:56:20,060 friend for calling in welcome and 3647 02:56:26,130 --> 02:56:21,470 wishing me a happy birthday 3648 02:56:28,569 --> 02:56:26,140 and give my best to baby Martin okay 3649 02:56:32,109 --> 02:56:28,579 okay I'll talk to you then 3650 02:56:35,019 --> 02:56:32,119 Thank You Marty good night good night 3651 02:56:38,500 --> 02:56:35,029 Monta my are right there in Miami Beach 3652 02:56:42,189 --> 02:56:38,510 Florida and survived the hurricane and 3653 02:56:46,240 --> 02:56:42,199 decide he wrote it out that's the crazy 3654 02:56:49,660 --> 02:56:46,250 thing he decided to write it out alright 3655 02:56:51,490 --> 02:56:49,670 that concludes another episode of fade 3656 02:56:52,479 --> 02:56:51,500 to black I want to thank everybody that 3657 02:56:56,290 --> 02:56:52,489 called in tonight 3658 02:56:58,479 --> 02:56:56,300 Anthony F Sanchez another great show 3659 02:57:00,550 --> 02:56:58,489 love it when Anthony is on the air I 3660 02:57:03,399 --> 02:57:00,560 just posted up in Twitter all of 3661 02:57:05,710 --> 02:57:03,409 Anthony's information it's right there 3662 02:57:08,800 --> 02:57:05,720 you gotta go check out those ghost 3663 02:57:10,059 --> 02:57:08,810 hunter apps amazing betablox executive 3664 02:57:11,889 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